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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Bloody hell is he still bitching on from yesterday? What does he want a pound of flesh? Boring, I gave up after his second post... And that was too long. zzzzzzzz
     
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  2. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    You can see them listed on the site somewhere I think. Typically an MP has at least one caseworker (often two) who handle all sorts of issues on behalf of local people, such as late payment of benefits, migration issues, issues with schools, complaints about local NHS care etc. They will have one political assistant, helping with speeches and research on national policy issues, and one diary secretary/administrator to keep the whole thing going and organise local constituency advice surgeries etc.

    The pay isn't brilliant - I started my career as a political assistant and my first salary was £17k per annum.

    Edit - forgot that it's becoming trendy to have a 'chief of staff' who are more political but help with everything and often a constituency manager to help with all the local visits on weekends, normally part time role.
     
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  3. kiwiqpr

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    Going well then
     
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  4. Sooperhoop

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    What do you expect a divorcing couple to look like?...
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    One of them normally happy
     
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    Donald Tusk Fighting against “totalitarian rule” circa the 1980’s
    Donald Tusk now trying to implement totalitarian rule via the EU circa 2020’s.
    JR Mogg still looking like lord Snooty from the Beano.
     
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    That is Theresa May happy
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    God i hope I don't get to see video of her dancing on the news
     
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    She does a fair impression of Peter Crouch's robot dance, she's got two left feet...
     
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    Just heard John MacDonnell being interviewed by the soon to retire (at ****ing last) John ‘me, me, it’s all about me’ Humphreys. MacD has really sharpened his act up, a much more impressive performer than Corbyn, you have to pinch yourself to remember that he is a proper Marxist who has actually read Marx. Humphreys tried the old ‘give me a socialist government that has actually worked’ routine and he came straight back with Labour 1945 and skillfully dodged around all the challenges, happily throwing Venezuela under the bus as an example.

    MacDonnell is a much cleverer, more polished and convincing politician than Corbyn, talks compromise convincingly, and he is consequently more dangerous. I’d probably vote for him, by mistake, forgetting what he really stands for.
     
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  11. Stroller

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    There's really nothing to be scared of.
     
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    Funny a mate of mine said the same a few days ago. I think Labour are missing a trick by not getting McDonnel in charge, I like Corbyn but feel McD comes across a lot better.
    On a footnote, I’ve talked to a few people who have actually met him and I’ve always heard positive things and that he has always done his best to sort out issues for his constituents......isn’t that what ours MPs should do ??
     
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    ....if you share his core beliefs. I don’t, though I did once, and they are very tempting.


    On another point, I read through the first 25 pages of this thread yesterday, in search of something which I failed to find. It was brilliant until a couple of twats who are banned/no longer post joined in. All pre Brexit stuff, varied, passionate and mostly polite . Swords (not one of the twats) winding people up but man he was clever. Shame we are all now single issue obsessed and not listening to each other.
     
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    Yep, MPs, particularly ones like Corbyn and McDonnell who for decades haven’t had any position in government or shadow government, should be really good at looking after their constituents, it’s their main job. I imagine McDonnell is rather effective at it. He can do charm, gravitas and also rabble rouse.
     
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    What did you say ? I wasn’t listening :)
     
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  17. BobbyD

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    I can see the emotions here but has anyone actually seen debates come out about brexit? My family, my friends and my colleagues the few times i have debated/heard debate has all been civilized. The only anger i see is what the news reports and obviously any marches that go on but from a day to day perspective nothing really
     
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    I didn’t read the one syllable posts mate :emoticon-0103-cool:

    What was interesting (to me) was how angry and passionate I was about the Greek situation and the EU bail out. Since then I think I have fallen into a default defensive mode about the EU in response to the extreme anti EU stuff. I was right back then, what the EU and banks did to the ordinary people of Greece stinks. Note to self - no knee jerk reactions. Think man think!


    It would be a disaster, but I’d vote for Yanis Varoufakis, the biker academic revolutionary, without a second thought. Just for the laughs.
     
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    I don't reckon that Corbyn and McDonnell necessarily aspire to the workers owning the means of production. I think what we would see under Corbyn or McDonnell is a bit of overdue re-balancing towards the kind of mixed economy we had before Thatcher and Major sold everything off. Re-nationalisation of the railways and utilities is a vote-winning manifesto pledge.

    I might take a look back at some of the early stuff on here, but I often cringe when I read stuff I've posted. I really enjoyed Swords's stuff.
     
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    When we had a dispute at BA he actually made a personal appearance at a union meeting to give us his support.....he made a very good speech that certainly got the crowd going.
     
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