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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Many more Tories voted in favour in March 1983 than the 2 who opposed - 84 Labour MPs rebelled against their own government. Without Tory support the government would have lost, though technically it didn’t need Parliament’s support to start a war.
    18 March 2003
    That HM Government should use all means necessary to ensure the disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction

    Absolute majority: 330/659
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    Aye Labour Party (254), Conservative Party (146), Ulster Unionist Party (6), Democratic Unionist Party (5), Independent Conservative (1)
    412 / 659

    No Labour Party (84), Liberal Democrats (52), Scottish National Party (5), Plaid Cymru (4), Conservative Party (2), Independent Community and Health Concern (1), Social Democratic and Labour Party (1)
    149 / 659

    Abstentions Speaker of the House (1), Labour Party (69), Conservative Party (17), Sinn Féin (4), Social Democratic and Labour Party (2), Liberal Democrats (1)
    94 / 659

    Tellers Labour Party (3), Conservative Party (1); not counted in vote totals
    4 / 659
     
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  2. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Tusks words are quite extraordinary in such a fragile situation. I dare say it certainly wont encourage anyone to think all is rosey
     
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  3. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    :emoticon-0100-smile I always knew he was a Eurosceptic but just how much he dislikes the EU has only been coming out recently. As for May, yes she was a retainer but she has stuck by her guns regarding leaving. Re Labour... You can't be serious? It's not just the leader who is weak. I can name plenty of idiots in that party.
     
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  4. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    I'm still waiting to hear from Strolls. I'm interested in his response and think he may be conflicted
     
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  5. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah cos there aren't too many in the conservative party are there? Stuck by her guns leaving? Where have you been for the last 2 years? You really are a strange poster.
     
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  6. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he will be anymore or any less conflicted than you are with the woman who wont deliver the Brexit you voted for as shes a remainer, or did you vote for a deal based on an amendment to the Irish backstop??
     
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  7. ELLERS

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    Farage was just on Sky saying the EU are 2222ing themselves. He is/was there and said many are worried about a no deal as the Eurozone is heading into a recession. He actually said that last week was the first time he noticed the fear in may MEP's. I think Tusk is generally gutted about the whole Brexit thing and realisation has finally come home. I said months ago that if we left with no deal it would bring down the EU. Now the commentators are hinting at it. They just needed to adapt and things would be sorted.
     
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  8. Goldhawk-Road

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    This is painful. Look, Major presided over sleaze in his party. He was chief sleaze merchant. You dismiss his adultery, but think if Thatcher had been caught in bed with another man, or Blair had, during his time as PM, cheated on Cherie. Or Cameron, or May. Do you think the media and electorate would simply dismiss it, as you are doing in your myopic defence of Honest John.
     
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  9. ELLERS

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    You don't need to start getting upset like Tusk because you didn't get what you wanted? You have said before you didn't understand :eek:. Leave it to the posters that do. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  10. Quite Possibly Raving

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    Unless I'm mistaken, the affair wasn't discovered and reported on until the early 2000s, no?

    Edit - hence it not being an issue in his political career...
     
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  11. bobmid

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    Nobody on here did understand, that's plain to see. I don't mean that in a derogatory way to anyone but nobody understood that 2 years of ****e from the government was about to take over politics. As for leaving it to people who understand it, crack on fella, what's the plan? I now hope for May's deal, so those like you don't get what you want.
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    As stated before comments like this really tell us what you are all about. A bit of a stupid comment.
     
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  13. bobmid

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    Explain why if you can
     
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    I've sussed it - Donald Tusk is DT in disguise...<laugh>
     
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  15. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Just one question Ellers. I would love you to answer it. Did you understand that when you voted to leave, you were infact voting for your remainer prime minister to negotiate a withdrawal deal that would include an Irish backstop, that she would then tear up after being voted down, to try then renegotiate her own deal over again with only a few weeks before the time limit? Yes or no
     
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  16. ELLERS

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    And Barnier is bob. It all makes sense now. <laugh>
     
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    Ye
    QUOTE="ELLERS, post: 12543930, member: 1013685"]And Barnier is bob. It all makes sense now. <laugh>[/QUOTE]
    Yes or no Boris. Go on answer it boris I dare ya
     
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    Grow a pair of bollocks ellers. Answer my ever so simple question
     
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  19. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    It's not a trick question Ellers. Just a yes I understood that's what voting leave entailed or no I didn't understand that's what voting leave entailed.
     
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    Don’t be silly Ellers, Corbyn has been against what the EU has become for many, many years and never tried to hide it.
    He’s a true man of ‘the Left’.
     
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