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CHAMPIONSHIP REBUILD THREAD

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by DragonPhilljack, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. Stumpy

    Stumpy Well-Known Member

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    Fers deal fell through due to his injury so we loaned them Carroll, who we've just spent time and effort to get back to fitness so he could play for us, instead

    The only reason they are loaning our players to direct competitors imo, is to deliberately commit American Sewer Side and reduce us to MLS level so they can flood our team with cheap **** from there.

    Time to boycott these ****s I think, players close to revolt I hear, hence James staying, I think we should join them.
     
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  2. DragonPhilljack

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    This is a bloody disgrace, given the parachute payments, I hope there will be a response to this, in a collapse in season ticket sales!!..........................<ok>
     
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  3. mustyfrog

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    when I was up this morning at 3am I checked the Swans website after reading John Hartsons comments on BBC Football, Carroll fit to play v Bristol City, I come home at 3 pm to read he is now on loan??????????? what fking morons run this club?? Montero I can understand in a way but for ffs this is bollocks - if we dont want them SELL THEM
     
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  4. nifta

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    What a shambles. What kind of state of mind and, therefore, form are James and Fer going to be in now? Team cohesion will be screwed.
     
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  5. LIBERTARIAN

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    The team are sitting in mid table, not too far from the play offs, oh, and they are in the last 16 of the F.A. Cup.

    I can think of dozens, and dozens, of Club's, who would happily exchange places with Swansea City F.C.

    The Owners are on a mission to streamline THEIR Club, and make it fit for purpose. That will take more time than many who post here are prepared to give them.

    Those who constantly harp on about them have a clear choice, i.e., support them in their endeavour, or not.

    Re James and Fer. They are professional footballers and should knuckle down and wait for the Summer.

    So much for Leeds being a ' big Club' when clearly they are unable to afford a bag of chips at Rossi's, let alone pay a loan fee for James. <laugh>
     
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  6. PGFWhite

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    Incredible turnaround. Madness reigns on a normal day at the Liberty!
     
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  7. PGFWhite

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    Amongst all this madness no one mentioned all our new signings........
     
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  8. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    Too many to list <cheers>
     
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  9. nifta

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    Yeah, not sure how we're gonna keep the 'team' mentality with so many new faces coming in...
     
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  10. 55282

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    James’s agent, David Manasseh, told The Telegraph: “Swansea made no attempt to keep the player and at the first sign of money they couldn’t show him the door quickly enough. It is very disappointing but the player is philosophical about it.”

    Wow. Now it is common knowledge how poisonous our club has become. No player of any worth will want to come here and some may be preparing to leave.

    We're really in the **** now. How bad could it get when Potter leaves?
     
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  12. 55282

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    I would expect that from his agent.
    It just cost him money.
     
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  13. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    The poor agent <wah>, I bet the starving parasite thought more loot for doing **** all .

    https://www.skysports.com/football/...uspends-agent-david-manasseh-for-three-months
     
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  14. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Its about time the wider media picked up how rancid the Club is , and there'll be more proof when it goes to Court
     
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  15. DragonPhilljack

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    IN: (None)

    OUT: Aaron Lewis (Doncaster, loan), Botti Biabi (Macclesfield, loan), Wilfried Bony (Al-Arabi, loan), Tom Carroll (Aston Villa, loan), Jefferson Montero (West Brom, loan), Ryan Blair (Dunfermline Athletic, loan)





    What new signings?..................................<laugh>
     
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  16. swantastic

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    Thank god the yanks don't own the stadium bricks n steel ? Not even the light bulbs will be safe once they've sold everything else there !
     
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  17. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully the wider media outlets will pick up on this but it seems WoL haven't so far shown any interest

    https://www.swanstrust.co.uk/2019/02/01/trust-statement-following-closure-of-transfer-window/

    Trust Statement Following Closure of Transfer Window
    February 1, 2019
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    Now that the transfer window has closed, the Trust notes with disappointment the fact that three players, Wilfried Bony, Jefferson Montero and Tom Carroll, have left with no replacements coming the other way to strengthen Graham Potter’s squad. It seems though that it could have been much worse, with the clear desire within the club to also move on Dan James and Leroy Fer. The Trust is relieved and pleased that both James and Fer are still Swansea City players, at least for now.
    The Trust’s frustration is not that players have been allowed to leave but that there has been no effort to bring in any replacements and that both Montero and Carroll left for clubs in direct competition with the Swans, as would have been the case it seems for James and Fer.
    Once again those in charge of overseeing the club’s transfer dealings have allowed last minute departures to weaken our squad significantly without seemingly have any plans to bring any players in. The final day of the transfer window proved once again that the club seemingly has little interest in ensuring we are competitive on the pitch and is prepared to leave Graham Potter with a significantly reduced squad. Graham Potter had previously said that if players leave, players would be brought in. He presumably made this comment based on assurances he had been given and yet again, he has been let down.
    To say that the club’s current transfer policy, such as it is, is short sighted is an understatement and highlights the inept way the club appears to be run now. It is not unreasonable to expect a professional football club to have a plan in place for a transfer window and contingency plans to replace any players who leave. It is also unclear who in the club is responsible for making decisions, allowing confusion to reign. While yesterday could have been much worse had James and Fer left as the club wanted, it does highlight a clear desire by the club to reduce costs at the expense of on field matters.
    As a Trust, we fully support the need to run the club on a financially prudent basis and understand that changes are needed to reflect our reduced income in the Championship. However, in the continued absence of detailed financial information, the Trust is unable to confirm whether the desire to move players on is the result of that financial prudence or simply a lack of ambition by our majority owners and those afforded the privilege of running the club on a day to day basis.
    It is clear that the club has not learned the lessons from the disasters of previous transfer windows, nor have the desperately needed changes been made to rid the club of the individuals responsible for the mistakes which led to our relegation from the Premier League. This is despite repeated requests over the past two and a half years for the majority owners to create succession plans for the changes needed and of course comments from those in situ, including the chairman, that their own roles would become untenable in the event of relegation. To be prepared to allow five players to leave the club on the final day of a month long transfer window with no replacements lined up is gross negligence on the part of those running the club.
    We are disappointed to note the apparent lack of support by the board and owners for Graham Potter, who has steered his team to within sight of the play off places and with a very realistic chance of a second successive FA Cup quarter final. Given the words of the chairman just a few short weeks ago where he stated that a promotion challenge was there for the taking, the events of the transfer window suggest that this is very far from the club’s minds.
    That the club was prepared to allow Dan James, a player just breaking into the first team, to leave at the first opportunity highlights a very real lack of ambition for the club and zero support for the manager. While we support the removal of some of the club’s top earners, to consider allowing young talent like Dan to leave goes against many of the principles on which we, and our manager, would like to pride ourselves.
    There are two clear things that need to happen as a direct result of this transfer window. First and once again the Trust finds itself calling for the immediate removal of Huw Jenkins as chairman. Despite the excellent job that Mr Jenkins did in supporting the Swans’ rise to the Premier League he is also largely responsible for the horrendous transfer dealings of the past few years that resulted in both our relegation and the dire situation in which we now find ourselves, where the club is prepared to offload prized assets to our immediate rivals. We have long since suggested that the club’s majority owners should have considered succession planning to replace Mr Jenkins but these words have fallen on deaf ears and the result is the current situation. The club has to stop repeating the same mistakes and the removal of the chairman is the first step towards that happening. We should not forget that our inability to move on the high earners has been a hindrance to us in the last two windows. This is a direct result of the transfer deals struck in previous windows where we have overpaid both in fees and wages for players who have failed to deliver on the pitch.
    Secondly, we call on the club’s majority owners to be totally transparent and communicate to the fans the reasons for taking the decisions they have taken and were prepared to take. If the reasons are purely financial then why haven’t the significant cuts being made on the playing side been reflected off the pitch? The club has a number of highly-paid executives strongly rumoured to be paid in line with Premier League income rather than that of a financially prudent Championship club. It is time for those who made great play when they arrived of being so keen on the ownership model and close community club that they saw in Swansea City to stand true to those beliefs and be present in Swansea and accountable for the poor decisions they are making. Our wage bill off the pitch is as unsustainable in this division as we were told our on the pitch outgoings are, yet the people who made and continue to make those decisions are still being paid as though they’re somehow considered to be doing an acceptable job. They clearly aren’t.
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    It is therefore well overdue that the club undertakes a full review of the off the field staff, overall costs and budgets and ensures these are in line with a club in the Championship with a vastly reduced income.
    The continued reduction in numbers of the first team squad and the continued presence of the former shareholders and their extended families enjoying the hospitality of the football club are a smack in the face of the club’s supporters. For these reasons, the club is as far detached from its fan base now as it has ever have been in the club’s history.
    Changes simply need to be made and the events of the most recent transfer window serve to highlight that beyond all doubt yet again.
     
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  18. Stereo

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    Will anything come of this ? We all know the score but nothing ever happens.
     
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  19. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    The mediation which the Trust have willingly agreed to attend has previously been delayed by the yanks/sellers failure in one party's case failed to acknowledge , another date has been set for the end of February and if the two other parties fail to attend or attempt to delay again then it'll go to a vote of the Trust membership ,one of the motions will be to take the yanks/sellers to court claiming that the Trust was prejudiced against when being excluding from the sale of the Club .If that is successful then it could mean that the yanks/sellers between them will have to offer to buy the Trusts shares for the same price of the original sale ,£ 20,000,000 .
     
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  20. glamexile

    glamexile Well-Known Member

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    Just been reading the Leeds board you seem to have got some reaction over there :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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