Fergie has a seperate agenda, he has a personal dislike for Liverpool. David Moyes, for example, isn't going to place the same emphasis on "knocking them off their perch" But he is a talented manager who can make the best of a bad situation. Who knows what he can achieve at a club with a much wider range of resources than Everton. If Mourinho takes over though, even for one of his typically short periods, it is definately a possibility we win the Cl more than once. Allardyce? Are you for real?
fair point and I agree it won't. Things change, a club that we won't expect will have their turn soon, hopefully us, that would be nice wouldn't it I do believe that Liverpool passed that barrier you needed to pass in order to not get relegated any time soon. We just missed out on it when we were up there. MU will always be a top club, for the next few generations anyway.
"You last won the league in 1990, 21 years ago, the next 20 years are likely to follow a similar pattern to the last and we will win more trophies than Liverpool . " Ur, there? By that reckoning you'll now go on a 20 year Premier League droubt. Yet you seem to think you'll carry on as you are for the next 20 years and win more trophies than us. Football's cyclical, We've had our haul, you've yours, now it will be Chelsea and City for the next 20 years.
"Are you for real?" Yep im for real. Do you think Mourinho will leave the biggest and most successful club in europe to take over from SAF? You will end up with a combo of Solksjaer and Fergie jnr with daddy watching from upstairs or Bruce/Allardyce with Giggs/Neville and SAF upstairs,Fergie will want to choose his successor and will choose a yes man.
Yes, 20 years, Not FOREVER. Realistically, it will take you at least three years before you can consider yourself champions league winning material. I do not EXPECT "King Kenny" to be overly successful in the long run anyway, He wont win you trophies but you will not force him out because of his status, essentially i EXPECT he will leave within a few years in some way or another. This could set you back. Fergie realistically has 3(?) Years left. Whilst he is here I doubt you will win more trophies than us. Depending on our next manager we could continue winning trophies, and we are likely to appoint a a top notch manager. The fact is Man City may overtake us all in the next era(depending on their owners influence). But Liverpool are a good 3 years behind us as it is, you are not going to catch us up anytime soon
Oh, okay you are for real, so when Allardyce takes over please remind me of this conversation, yeah? You don't read much about Football abroad, do you? If you did you would be aware that Mourinho is already stating that he isn't overly comfortable in spain, and would like to return to England at some point. Mourinho also isn't ever anywhere for long anyway, I have a feeling in 2/3 years time when Fergie retires Mourinho wont be at Madrid. Ironically, knowing the ruthlessness of the Madrid hierachy, Jose will be lucky if he isn't sacked if he doesn't manage to overthrough Barcelona. Fergie will have input in the decision for his successor, but he doesn't own United so he wont be appionting anyone. But if he suggests his son, unless he has proved his worth, i doubt the Glazers will appoint him. Why will Fergie choose a yes man exactly? It's not like Fergie will be running the club. Fergie and Mourinho are great friends in any case.
Four2three1, I really don't see Mourinho managing you lot. He's in a strop with Real at a lack of transfer fees, a LACK of transfer fees, and this is free-spending Real Madrid we're talking about. What will he do at United? Let's face it, the purse strings have been pretty tight lately, when was your last big signing? Your squad is aging and it will need some serious money spending on it and Mourinho, much like Rafa, is a manager who does well when he is given huge sums of money to make and mould his own team. Not a dig, just an observation.
What dont you get four2three1?. When SAF retires(and he will)utd will be back to square one,thats why someone like Mourinho wont work,SAF is obviously developing a young team on a gradual basis and that will be his legacy to the new manager. The problem then is the prawn sarnie brigade want immediate success and the new manager wants his own backroom staff and players etc. Thats why theres more chance of one of Fergies old boys or pals taking over with his lad or Giggs/Neville as number two so that the Fergie dynasty continues. And while all thats going on we will be well into our transition and rebuilding period and already progressing.
You dont know an awful lot about utd do you lad?. Sir matt Busby was upstairs after his retirement and having a say on everything on the playing side of business,apart from Tommy Doc(hows Mary Tommy?),O'Farrell,McGuinness and Sexton were answerable to Sir Matt for signings,contracts etc etc and on his recommendation those failures were sacked,theres a very good chance the same thing will happen with SAF when he moves upstairs. Oh and by the way its been published many times that Fergie will have a say in who succeeeds him,you dont think the Glazers will choose do you?
So you aren't aware that Mourinho would like to manage in England once again? Fergie gets the money when he NEEDS it, are you not aware that we spent around 25 million pounds this summer. We could, in monetary terms, have brought in Ozil and Van Der Vaart for that money. He valued Hernandez, Bebe and Smalling as better purchases. Plus our first team hasn't got these problems your on about. Actually a few players Mourinho most courts, belong to us (Vidic, Evra, Henandez) He admires our club, no secret about that. He has pulling power also, he doesn't need the money that Rafa does. Mourinho and United have pulling power due to their success. Rafa can only really attract spanish players. He needs big money and big wages to add incentive. Moyes would fill many of us with great confidence also, so Mourinho isn't the only hope
Fergie will have a say, He wont APPOINT. If Fergie gives them Roy Keane, they have the power to say no. Whats he going to do if they say no. They have been involved in football for a good few years now. They may not know the in and outs, but they will know who is the cream of the crop in management. And even if Fergie is given full allowance to appoint he has an advantage, in the sense that he has so many connections and friends involved in football. As i said Mourinho and Fergie are good friends. He has more connections than Darren, Giggs and Neville. Fergie will remain here until he literally can no longer. By then he will not even want to be involved in the United management setup.
Back to square one? Are you daft? What will have happened to the likes of Vidic, Rafael, Nani, Rooney, Hernandez, Anderson, Valencia, Fletcher. Surely having quality players like this leaves us in a good position?
Now you are talking testicles kid. Shankly before and after his retirement had many friends,the utd manager at the time of Shankly's retirement was the Doc and he and his Shanks's great friend Sir Matt Busby had him at OT whenever possible,Big Jock Stein was another friend of shanks and he used to send a car to pick him up and bring him to Celtic Park,Everton had a seat in their directors box for shanks,the late Tom Finney was another that had Shanks at Deepdale in the directors box. We even had Shanks on the Kop(before it was all seats) watching games,you dont seem to know much about much lad.
You just about managed to avoid addressing any point i've raised, bar one You are comparing about 3 friends (One of which is a United legend who wouldn't manage Liverpool) To Fergie, who is known to have a number of friends, admirers and managers within the Premiership "under the thumb" so to speak.
You named 8 players from a your'e squad,that shows you know the rest are either retiring,leaving or are'nt good enough.
