Where do you start with such a dreadful comment? I'll start with the players name, it's Bannan not Bannon and considering he didn't play that often for us, I'm not sure how anyone could make a judgement on his ability whilst playing for Leeds United. As for Johnson/Kilkenny, absolute nonesense, two of the worst players to ever wear the Leeds shirt and I am delighted that they can go and be found out at other clubs. What an utterly pish response to this topic from Kebablegs.
i dont agree with your howson comments or to be honest about 9/10 of your comments but i agree with this. Kilkenny was very ineffective and johnson the same. I really rated bannan and didnt understand why he didnt get more games at leeds. Instead that idiot livermore got games for some reason. Even though bannan hardly played for us you could see his quality when he did
Do you think im Leeds? lol Fatboab - i didnt rate Johnson nor Kilkenny. Johnson i will never forgive for laughing on tv during the Histon game when we were 1-0 down and he dribbled the ball into touch with noone near him. BannAn i agree didnt get too much football at Leeds but nor was he getting too much at Villa. Why throw a young lad into a new team challenging at the top end when youve got 2 players who are used to their team-mates and tactics? I dont think the loan market works that well. I dont mind bringing players in on a season loan - eg Doyle who did a decent job but how do players feel when they lose their place to a young kid who has barely played senior football when they have helped the side to be promoted the previous season. I think the fact they both left tells you their feelings! I do think Bannan when i saw him at Villa looked a decent prospect but he looked a bit lightweight to me in the CC particurlarly when having to step up from playing mainly reserve team football. He also took some terrible dead-ball corners and free-kicks. I just dont think it was a good move and i think we would have better off sticking with the players that were tried and tested than bring in Bannan and Livermore.
kebablegs. You talk alot about feelings of players, but if they are not good enough, then they are not good enough. They need to deal with it by improving
Agreed with master stroke to make him captain against BR, but what about the rest of the season? Beckford (the tail) seemed to wag the dog (Grayson) for most of it. Really?!?!?!?!?!?! I think you were watching different Leeds United games to the ones the rest of us were watching. Bannan (note the correct spelling please) looked classy most of the time in a Leeds shirt and I remember being disappointed when he was dropped after a really good outing and then not being surprised when he expressed that he was so happy to have returned to Villa having left Leeds. Really looked like Simon messed that one up in a big way!
You must be one of the most arrogant, think they know it all people on here. People are entitled to their opinions and just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean that they are wrong. Kebablegs has probably seen Bannon live for Leeds more than you and therefore has a more informed opinion.
You have made a decision on the kind of person I may be, based on what I write on this forum and make your comment against me, as if it is fact, perhaps the arrogance is with yourself and not me. I note you spell Bannon incorrectly as well, which if you read my response, was one of my initial criticisms. Nothing wrong with stating your opinion, that's what forums are for, but you must be able to take the flack for some of your comments, if it is felt by others that you are wrong. I would suggest you personally stop making judgments on the kind of person they are that you simply don't know and for which your opinion may be totally incorrect. To quantify what I have just said, I refer to personality and not footballing ability.
Leeds60....read your post again. The ONLY reason Grayson signed Max, Clayton and Kasper is precisely because they cost **** all!!! And such a great manager he then sells two of them, the prat!! You are talking about the same manager who forced us to endure Andy Hughes and Kilkenny for far too many games. Grayson lacks one key thing to become a great manager...INTELLIGENCE!! He is genuinely thick, can't speak properly and rolls out every cliche imaginable. Sorry, Grayson does not genuinely see talent even when it's poking him in the eyes. Bannan is one example, the other is Livermore. Two quality players on loan and he doesn't give them a proper chance. Lichaj only got his chance because of injuries and Bessone being so crap. Grayson cost us promotion last season with a shocking run after Xmas that would have probably cost any other manager apart from Fergie and Wenger their jobs. Grayson is tactically inept and struggles to influence a game when changes are needed. We are stuck with Grayson while Bates is in charge because Grayson is just a nodding-dog.
Oh, and Leeds60....getting rid of a free transfer for £3m wasn't because Moyes felt Becks was difficult, it was because he had his collar felt by his chairman who made it clear that Everton is a selling club. They are in serious debt, and if it wasn't for Prem money Everton would be struggling to stay in League One. SELL, SELL, SELL!! That is the problem Moyes faces. We should have given Becks a new contract that at £15k a week would have cost us £780k, we would have had his goals and probably made the play-offs at the very least. Then if WE sold him for £3m we'd have been quids in. It's this narrow minded thinking that does my head in. Actually, what am I saying? Bates would have been quids in.
There's not many forward thinking business people involved in football, hence they react to things and don't see the bigger picture. I would suggest the fact they get involved in football demonstrates how good a business person they really are.
isn't bannan like a more lightweight version of Clayton? He could do a great job as a squad player for us I think - although why he'd move from Villa to be second choice at Leeds I've no idea. He got treated badly because the moment he came in Kilkenny upped his game - the games Killa played while Bannan was with us were the best he'd had all season.
We don't need Bannan. He would have fit in last season, instead of Kilkenny when we had him on loan, but he wouldn't be the player we need. We need a defensive midfielder. Howson can do a job in CM, but as people say it's not his best position at all. I think it's exaggerated how he goes 'invisible'. He just doesn't take control of the game like he can when he's given a free role. But when he gets the ball at his feet, he's great going forward, has a really good finish, so if SG can find a way to incorporate him in that position, he'd be much more effective.
Bannan has been named in Villa's 25 man squad and has already played in two of their three Premier League games so far, he won't be going anywhere.
Exactly. Bannan is more like Clayton than Howson but unlike Clayton doesn't do the dirty work aswell. He wasn't the CM we needed last year and he isn't the CM we need now. There's a difference between being badly treated and not playing well enough to start then moaning like a spoiled schoolkid afterwards. Bannan = McSheffrey.
From what i saw of Bannan at Leeds and elsewhere... gifted footballer but bit of a lightweight fancy dan. The sort that does a little cameo when brought on as late sub when the game has slowed down and gets the fans raving, but often goes missing when pitched in from the start. Might mature into a quality footballer, but isn't the finished article yet and wasn't what we needed at that time imo. Maybe more game time and he'd have settles but we didn't have the luxury of finding out. But hey, hindsight is a wonderful thing.
