The Queen has gone too far – it’s not her place to meddle in Brexit https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/inde...o-meddle-in-brexit/ar-BBSIMLy?ocid=spartandhp
oh really... the same people who would wrap themselves in a flag and doff their caps as she passes tell her to shut up
It's the same with any election and I doubt you said the same thing about a previous election. Indeed, 52% of the vote is better than any party has ever got in our FPtP system. Losers must be "respected," because...erm...they lost the argument or something. Apparently, according to the logic of those who bandy about the term "libtard" like it's an unbeatable Top Trumps card, anybody who didn't vote was going to vote Remain, despite the disillusion with politics a) causing people to stop voting or b) vote Leave. I wasn't happy that Thatcher won three elections and my vote for Labour was not respected. As Stephen Fry once said, "So ****ing what?" Well, that's a very generalised slogan. I'm pretty sure Che Guevara and the Sandinistas weren't so keen on the status quo. So despite suddenly being as keen on the EU as One Direction groupies for Harry Styles, they want to keep the status quo. Let's not have TTIP, or join the Euro, or any steps towards full political integration. Remainers aren't that dedicated to the cause and have always been eurosceptic to some extent. As Peter Hitchens, a man I have rarely agreed with, said, "We'll go from being half in the EU to being half out of it." It does bring up the idea that leaving is not about returning to WWII but is about change. Remain was about preserving a status quo based on the past and some would argue the EU is going to be anachronistic soon, when stratospheric air travel will see goods shipped to Australia in three hours. Scotland went from trading more with the EU than the rest of the world to doing more trade with the rest of the world, the EU being its least important trading partner. and that was long before any referendum or "Brexit effect," so WTO rules did not put off Scottish business, yet No Deal is put across like a pair of twos in a poker game. And taking no deal off the table is like taking bluffing off the poker table. Dumb as a box of bowling balls, which of course they know. It isn't to ensure we get a deal, it's to allow the EU's intransigence to ensure we remain. Why should the EU make any negotiated concession when MPs make it clear they won't leave if the offer sucks? Nobody wants no deal but FFS, turn around, bend over and pucker up. Remain didn't need a slogan, they needed this speech from Cameron in Feb 2015: "I have been to the EU and secured reforms, so now we can have a referendum based on a new EU." That would've won it. But he didn't get reforms, he got sent home with his tail between his legs. The EU called our bluff, thinking we'd never leave, and lost. Still, respect their opinion as the losers: they didn't want to reform, we didn't want to stay. Seems fair. In a continuation of the bizarre logic, we now have appeals to remain so we can reform it from the inside, which to this correspondent is like an abused wife arranging to leave an abusive husband, only to change her mind and stay at the last minute, because of his warnings that it'll be tough out there as a single mother, he's keeping the car and his lawyer will make life horrible for her. Plus she's sure she can reform him. He won't make life even tougher, will he? I mean, what's she going to do if he does? Leave again? There would not be reforms; there would be a push for further integration. They're already talking about it for the 27. Speaking of unions, it used to be that a multinational would threaten to move its factory overseas to a cheaper workforce if a union got uppity with wage demands. The EU saved them the cost and moved the cheap workforce to the factory. And the workers paid their own way there! Genius. Of course, freedom of movement was not about wage control with cheap labour but a verse in John Lennon's Imagine about cultural diversity, which is a good thing. Ironically, the unions are keen on Jeremy Corbyn and his programme, which would be illegal under EU law. You might've heard Kate Hoey explain this but nobody else in the Labour party. Either they're unaware or don't want to mention it. My guess is the latter. If you want salient advice, stay away from slogans like "take back control" or "protect the status quo." Try reading the extensive data on how ineffective expertise is when it convinces itself it has psychic powers to predict the future. Headlines stating what "could" happen are not news, they're speculation and psychic mumbo jumbo, the likes of which we haven't seen since the Y2K bug was going to destroy civilisation. You remember the sound of crickets on Jan 1st 2000, right? The status quo was **** and dire warnings that it's the best we can expect from our Captains of Capitalism ring hollow. They may threaten to move overseas but it's a pretty stupid multinational that stays out of the 5th largest economy in the world, especially when they've just argued against the concept of leaving. In or out, Capitalism will continue to have booms and busts. It's what it does and we didn't vote to leave Capitalism. Hey, that'd be a good teeshirt slogan!
I'd rather stick with the slogan.. the lad was a big union man and was talking about the basis of any negotiation btw. you do.realise that y2k was discussed and just plain updated into non issue. hardly the same at all. as.for.5th biggest economy stuff. patently no multi national aimed at serving up would leave it's market. but if said multinational wanted to serve all of Europe including UK then it may have to look again and see what it does to.serve it's 6 times.bigger European market many are obviously waiting to see what's what after brexit and many are playing the hq brass plaque game
I hate the Y2K comparison, its ridiculous and negates the hard work that people actually put into fixing the problem. The reason nothing happened in the end was because the people who needed to be were motivated (scared) into actually doing something about it.
Brexit will leave the UK 'unstable' for decades with violence on the streets and independence referendums in Scotland and Northern Ireland, EU intelligence secret report warns
Reminds me when Aids was first discovered, with all the campaign and propaganda. I was of the opinion that no one is going to be safe in Britain.
message 2: no extension to arrive 50 cos nobody is bothered. both votes 327 on government side. this is going to go like this and nothing will get decided today
Trying to get a decent brexit deal failed. Back away while you can. It's a fallacy to say "we've come this far, so might as well continue". I don't believe the Domesday prophecies or the exaggerated claims of Britain collapsing but I don't see how any of this isn't going to make Britain a percent worse off overall.
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If you lived in Canada and someone told you that everything you buy from or trade to the united states next door was subject to 15% duty what would you think. It's the closest equivilant in terms of relative population size I can think of. There's a reason Canada is helping the US scalp Huawei, despite all the efforts of that liberal in charge he still does whatever the big dog says. The UK has a bigger market and financial hub but is still a small island off a massive market For me the only conclusion watching people getting interviewed here is that thry are sick and tired of hearing about it now and have convinced themselves it just can't be that bad. Imo no deal Brexit is going to happen as we've just seen yet another pointless day where the time to 29th march is now going to halve before anything else needs to occur. It will be no deal imo now. The time for this **** was before 2 year's of good faith negotiations. Saying no to that deal = saying yes to no deal brexit
As far as I can tell yesterday was an orchestrated Try and DUP government vote off to appease brexiteers and remainers in the tory party. everyone esle might as well have stayed away. Only two things passed 1. go back to eu and ask them to bully ireland into line. Get rid of back stop somehow. 2. non binding we don't want a no deal brexit vote that was largely meaningless to ensure a hard binding version of same didn't pass. This is just going to end up on valentines day or so with May in parliament with cap in hand saying its her deal or no deal. I would say the EU is now in full swing no deal preparations.
Brexit With Brexit it looks a little bit like nobody is an expert but they’re constantly talking about it, but nobody has a real solution. If the situation and moment does not sort the problem then I don’t know why we try that solution. That, I don’t understand. History taught us that if you are alone you are weaker than the unit. I’m 51-years-old so I’ve never experienced a war around me, so we are really blessed in our generation. The past showed us as long as the strong partners are together, Europe at least, is a much, much, much safer place and that’s what we all have. We live in wonderful circumstances in the middle of Europe, South Europe as well. Yes we have problems, but let’s sort them. I don’t like that it starts splitting again.
