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Excuse me Beth, but ****s knows.

Where do the bees go in winter, as John Cooper Clarke asked in a long shaggy dog story at a gig in Durham in 1979 which I had the great good fortune to attend. The answer, eventually - **** knows.

 

Thank you Stan ...got it now, fully understand.




Btw...where do bees go in the winter??

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No-deal Brexit will lead to thousands of deaths from heart attacks and strokes by driving up the price of fruit and vegetables, study claims, but critics brand it 'Project Fear at its very worst'

• Any deal under which the UK exits the EU will push up prices, experts claim
• According to scientists, a no-deal Brexit would have the worst impact
• They used data from the World Health Organization and British Government

By Ben Spencer Medical Correspondent For The Daily Mail
Published: 10:30 AEDT, 29 January 2019 | Updated: 12:19 AEDT, 29 January 2019
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No-deal Brexit will lead to thousands of deaths by driving up the price of fruit and vegetables, experts have calculated.
Increased prices will mean British intake of fruit and vegetables could drop by as much as 11 per cent, according to researchers from Imperial College London and the University of Liverpool.
This would lead to more than 12,000 extra deaths caused by heart attacks and strokes between 2021 and 2030, they estimate.
Critics described the study as 'Project Fear at its very worst'.

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But price rises would see this plummet, with intake dropping 11 per cent.
Because low fruit and vegetable intake is a major risk factor for cardiovascular disease, this would impact heart and stroke deaths, the researchers warned.
They said a no-deal Brexit scenario would see heart attack deaths rise by 0..9 per cent - some 4,110 deaths - and strokes go up 2.9 per cent - 8,290 deaths - between 2021 and 2030 in England alone.
Professor Christopher Millett, from the School of Public Health at Imperial, who jointly led the research, said: 'The UK's exit from the European Union has long been framed in terms of its political and social importance.
'But this study shows that the impact of Brexit will reach far beyond the economy and may affect people's risk of disease.
'The UK Government must consider the public health implications of Brexit trade policy options, including changes to the price of key food groups.'
But Edgar Miller, convenor of the Economists for Free Trade group, said: 'This is Project Fear at its very worst - a report written by a group of generally junior medical researchers none of whom have any discernible expertise in trade theory or experience in modelling trade flows.
'They have missed the key point: the EU exists to protect EU, the majority French, farmers from market forces in the rest of the world.
'Getting rid of EU protectionism through free trade agreements and unilateral elimination of tariffs on fruit and vegetables that are not produced in the UK will result in an immediate fall in food prices, as exporters around the globe supply food at lower world prices.
'Food producers from the EU will then have to cut prices to stay competitive; they will not be in a position to raise prices in Britain, even if Britain imposes tariffs against the EU.
'In addition, the UK will see a seven per cent gain in GDP and an overall 8 per cent fall in consumer prices.'

 

dont worry
the mirror has found out what happens

'Time traveller from 2030' claims he knows what happens to the UK after Brexit
Noah the 'Time Traveler' claims to live in the year 2030, and comes bearing bad news for 52% of Brits
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With no end to the Brexit mess in sight, you’d have to be a time traveller to know what Britain will look like after leaving the EU.
And that's exactly what Noah, who claims to be from the year 2030, says he is.
His latest 'prediction' is about what the country will look like in 11 years time - by which point Parliament may actually have come to an agreement about what happens next.
For the 52 percent of Brits who voted to Leave, however, Noah’s news might not be welcome.
In the video, the pixelated figure claims that, despite Brexit , the UK will re-join forces with the EU again as par of a European superstate.
Noah the Time Traveller claims to be from the year 2030 (Image: YouTube/ApexTV)
"I have come back to tell you guys the truth and everything there is to know about the future", claimed Noah to the paranormal investigations YouTube channel, ApexTV.
"Theres a lot for me to say. First thing, the United Kingdom actually comes back into the European Union.
Presumably referring to his point in time, he goes on to say "everyone knows [the UK] left a while ago now," before claiming the country returns before 2030.
The thing about the European Union in the future is all the countries in the EU actually converge together into one giant country, and the UK kind of acts like a district in this giant country, he continued.
He says the UK returns to the EU and forms a superstate (Image: YouTube/ApexTV)
Including the likes of Germany, Spain, France and Denmark in the plans, Noah claims other nations will supposedly follow suit in the trend of merging borders - much to the dismay of Brexiteers everywhere.
A new currency will also apparently be introduced by the superstate, making both the Pound and Euro obsolete.
Noah also warned of drastic changes to the UKs temperature as global warming accelerates in the coming years, bearing with it irrevocable change.
Noah's claims of a borderless continent won't be welcomed news for 52% of Britain (Image: Getty)
"It does significantly change, the United Kingdoms temperature," he says.
Global warming is a very bad thing that we have, and I dont know what to tell you guys.
You need to change something right now if you dont want the temperature and everything to change.
In another audacious claim, Noah says Britons will also have a chip implanted into their heads, helping to increase brain-capacity up to six times over.
Not all viewers of the YouTube video were convinced (Image: YouTube/ApexTV)
Another chip will be placed into civilians wrists too, regulating both physical and mental health.
But not all viewers of the bizarre video were believers in Noah.
Why is he always wearing the same clothes?,asked one YouTube user.
LMAO, how many of you actually take this kid seriously?, said another.
Noah has previously appeared on the channel claiming to have a photograph of Las Vegas in 2120 .

 

Sterling goes through the floor after Grieve and Cooper amendments are defeated.

 

Spellman amendment rejecting No Deal has been passed.

Not binding though.

 

Gamer over.
I don't know if TM is lucky or played a blinder? Cooper/Grieve is finished. Corbyn is weak and his party don't listen to him.
No losers vote, no stopping Brexit as the latest vote is not even legally binding.
Let's see how flash Leo Advark is now when the EU drop him like a brick.

 

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So to sum up the PM's speech: she is now asking the Commons to rip up the deal she agreed with the EU, change the backstop she said was unchangeable, and has given herself just 14 days to talk the EU27 round. She sure likes a challenge.

 

You watch the EU cave in like an overdone Turkey. France will surrender first. German ministers already talking.

 

It's not even close to over, pal. They'll do all this again in two weeks time after the EU have told May to **** off and it'll be a lot different. All May has done today is waste more time.

 

ERG must be having a party.

 

Tories simply in self-preservation mode, tells you all you need to know about what selfish c*nts politicians are...

 

Go away and try for another losers vote... oops that's gone. You had your chance and that time has passed. Said all along that we would be leaving and we will. Those remoaners must be chocking.

 

Fiona Onasanya becomes first sitting MP to be jailed in 28 years

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Fiona Onasanya becomes first sitting MP to be jailed in almost 30 years Credit: Pixel 8000/Gavin Rodgers

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29 January 2019 • 5:32pm

Fiona Onasanya has become the first sitting MP to be jailed in 28 years after she was sentenced to three months in jail - but she will cling on to her seat for as long as she can because it's her only source of income.
The MP for Peterborough was found guilty of perverting the course of justice following a retrial in December over the lies she told police to avoid a speeding ticket.
Mr Justice Stuart-Smith jailed the politician for three months at the Old Bailey, keeping open the possibility that she could keep her seat and remain on the parliamentary payroll.
Christine Agnew QC, defending, earlier told the court: "Regardless of the type of sentence imposed, the conviction and sentence will have a disastrous impact on every aspect of her life. She has already been expelled from the Labour party, at the moment she continues to stand as an independent MP and her only reason for that is because it is her only source of income.
"It is likely that after her sentencing hearing today, she will lose her seat as an MP because she will be deselected."
It is thought Onasanya has earned around £8,900 as a now-independent MP since she was convicted last month. Labour have called for her to stand down having expelled her following the guilty verdict.
The judge accepted she had acted "totally out of character", but did not agree her case was exceptional enough to warrant a suspended sentence.
Passing down the punishment, he said: "That is the shortest sentence I’m able to impose."
But he added Onasanya had made a "disastrous decision" to continue with the lie after learning her brother had entered the name of a Russian former tenant on the form in the hope the trail would "go cold".
"There cannot be one way for those in positions of power, privilege and responsibility and (another for) those that are not," he told the court.
Having been previously praised for championing women's rights as a politician, Onasanya is now the first female MP ever to be sent to prison.

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The image of Fiona Onasanya's Nissan Micra picked up by a speed camera Credit: PA
Parliamentary rules require the removal of an MP who is jailed for 12 months or more.
But if the sentence is less than that a recall petition can force a by-election if it is signed by more than 10% of the electorate in the Cambridgeshire seat.
It is unclear whether Onasanya intends to continue as an MP while she serves her sentence, but her lawyer told the hearing she accepted her political career was in ruins.
Festus Onasanya, the MP’s brother, was jailed for 10 months after the judge accepted he had likely filled out a form on her behalf, along with a string of similar deceits.
The case drew comparison to that of Chris Huhne - a former Lib Dem Cabinet minister who was jailed for eight months in March 2013 for points swapping in order to avoid a driving ban.
But he resigned his seat and his position in the Cabinet before the trial started, while Onasanya remains a sitting MP.
A Labour Party spokesman said: "Fiona Onasanya has let the voters of Peterborough down. When she was found guilty she should have immediately done the decent thing and resigned.
"However today's sentence gives Fiona one last opportunity to act honourably and resign from Parliament. She should do this without delay and not take another penny in salary from the public purse."
During that retrial, the Old Bailey heard evidence she was texting as well as speeding on the evening of Monday July 24 last year, during the summer recess.
The 35-year-old solicitor was clocked going 41mph in a 30mph zone in the village of Thorney near Peterborough.
The prosecution alleged she went on to collude with her brother Festus to avoid a speeding ticket.
The court was told she was sent a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) to fill out, but it was sent back naming the driver as Aleks Antipow, an acquaintance of Festus, who was away visiting his parents in Russia.
Festus, 34, from Cambridge, pleaded guilty to three counts of perverting the course of justice over speeding, including for the July 24 incident.

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Festus Onasanya smiling on his way to the Old Bailey on Tuesday Credit: Jonathan Brady/PA
The siblings were sentenced at the Old Bailey by Mr Justice Stuart-Smith on Tuesday.
In sending her to prison, Fiona Onasanya becomes the first sitting MP since Terry Fields to be jailed.
Fields was sentenced to 60 days in prison for refusing to pay his poll tax bill of £373. He retained his seat in the House of Commons upon his release.
In the wake of the guilty verdict, Onasanya was expelled from the Labour Party and has launched an appeal against her conviction.
Onasanya took the marginal seat from the Tories with a majority of just 607 at the 2017 election just 18 months ago.

 

I don't care Sooper. it's more than the Tories. That Cooper woman was trying to change laws/constitution. She wanted to overhaul democracy and now she has failed. Maybe she should do the honourable thing and fall on her sword.

 

oh dear it gets better! Master stroke!

 

I agree, as I've said many times on here, all politicians are selfish c*nts. Many are on borrowed time as local parties will remind them as the next election approaches...

 

Reeves amendment defeated, Spelman and Brady passed.

So, to sum up to date MPs:
- do not support the actual deal that has been agreed with 27 other countries
- do not support leaving the EU without a deal, but don’t want to make this binding on the government
- do not support extending the time available (or asking the EU to extend the time) to find out what they (MPs) do support on what a deal should look like
- do not support giving themselves the opportunity to vote on alternative deals
- support sending a useless prime minister back to Brussels to reopen negotiations which finished last year with a result she was happy with, to ask for something vague, opaque and ill defined, which she has been told she can’t have.

These people truly reside at the very apex of ****wittery.

“One step forward, two steps back, will politics get me the sack, waiting for the great leap forwards” B. Bragg

 

I don't think you've been paying attention.

 

Totally agree. Those MP's that went against their constituancies wishes will lose their seats. On radio coming home I was listening to many callers saying they wouldn't vote for their MP's that supported Cooper. Hopefully a GE will come around soon and we can get rid of those remoaner MP's.
Cave in from Corbyn! He will now meet TM... Funnily he said earlier that he would only meet her when Cooper deal passed.
Massive day for May.