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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. kiwiqpr

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    EU citizens! This must be fake news. I've been assured that British people will lose their rights to live and work in 27 countries, their futures stolen. Surely the Remain campaign didn't lie?



    Malta to offer Britons renewable 10-year residency permits

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    Some 13,000 Britons live in Malta, which was a British colony until 1964, and a third of all the tourists who visit the small Mediterranean island come from Britain
    Malta will offer Britons living in Malta a 10-year residency permit with the same rights as they currently enjoy if Britain quits the European Union without any agreement, Maltese Prime Minister Joseph Muscat said on Wednesday.
    Malta wants to be the most British-friendly country in Europe after Brexit, Muscat told reporters.
    While regretting Britain’s decision to leave the EU, Muscat said he agreed with other EU leaders that the withdrawal agreement rejected by the British parliament last week could not be changed.
    Some 13,000 Britons live in Malta, which was a British colony until 1964, and a third of all the tourists who visit the small Mediterranean island come from Britain.
    “Britons already living here have nothing to worry about because of Brexit,” Muscat said. Those working in Malta could continue to do so, and students already here would also be able to continue their studies.
    Britons who move to Malta after Brexit would also be able to receive a 10-year residence permit, but their rights would be like other third-country nationals, he said.
    Asked about Malta’s efforts to draw away businesses from Britain, Muscat said a number of companies had already opted to set up offices on the island, giving them an EU foothold. Malta, he said, had not targeted large multinationals but instead relatively smaller companies with a few thousand employees.
    In particular, Malta had targeted firms with parent companies in the United States, India and Japan. There would be a “steady flow” of businesses registering in Malta, he added.
     
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  2. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    The fact that Malta needs to offer the permit demonstrates that we no longer have the right unless a European country chooses to offer it...

    If the majority of (let's be realistic for a second) major European economies offer the same with no demand in return, then happy to accept the remain side exaggerated.
     
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  3. Stroller

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    Kiwi has surpassed himself today <applause>
     
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    People like her do us all the service of effectively ignoring two referendums. I like that she says Scotland didn’t vote for Brexit, but ignores the fact that it did vote to remain part of the U.K., thus binding it to the outcome of the EU referendum. If we’re going to unwind referendums perhaps we might go back as far as Wilson’s of 1975?
     
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    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    I'd be very happy to unwind them all, including the 1975 one. Perhaps we can all agree on this and close the thread? :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    Would that it were all that simple.
     
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    cheers strolls
    i do my best to find it all for you
    some days are harder than others
     
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    You must be exhausted. Take a few weeks off.
     
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    But but but
    You might miss out on something strollsie
     
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    Should a permit be needed then I don't think it will be long before the rest start to offer one
     
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    As I said, if larger markets offer this without the demand of reciprocating (ie free movement), then happy to accept remain side exaggerated.

    Until that happens, all the story does is demonstrate the point remain made - that we have lost the right to work in other European markets.

    Time will tell.
     
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    We did win two world wars so deserve special treatment IMO.
     
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    I enjoy them :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    And you think the EU will put that forward, knowing that we will reciprocate and no EU citizens will be able to work in the UK?

    It's a question of need. We will be selective after Brexit. It seems only fair that EU member firms can be equally selective ie they don't have to offer Brits jobs that they can fill from their own citizens

    Can't see it's any different from Brits working in Aus or NZ, but happy to be corrected
     
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    Pretty sure from both French and English sides that travel won’t be that affected

    The issue for me on Brexit is leaving the country in the hands of clueless Brexiteers who still have their heads in the sand and still no plans

    Just blaming Europe for their the country’s short comings and actually believing that the U.K. can go it alone in a global market

    We haven’t the resources or budget to compete as a sovereign nation and in the long term business will be far better off operating outside the U.K. where they will sell us the services we need now and the new services that a Brexiteer hasn’t a bloody clue about

    We are a consumer nation like nothing else in Europe and I believe demand will increase on that we ain’t going to change and haven’t a clue on how to rebuild our own industries

    Bollocks to Brexit
     
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    RSA who I design for moving it’s legal entity to Luxembourg from the UK walkie talkie 20 Fenchurch street

    Simply put we need to be in Europe to do business there no good being stuck on an island within a sovereign state

    People just don’t get it products will be grown for the U.K. markets outside the U.K. in the end
     
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    I worked for a company that re-registered in Bermuda. All the work was still done in the UK, but once a year, we had a pleasant few days in Hamilton to hold the AGM. It's token only, for tax in my company's case, presumably for Single Market and tax in yours.
     
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    Permits
    Visas
    If you want to go and live and work in Europe and they want to let you for a small fee doesn't sound too troublesome
     
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