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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile, on r/coys

    Never deserved to win really. Sick of watching players get injured and makeshift sides not play up to scratch. Buy a ****ing player

    A player that would be dropped the the bench as soon as Kane/Alli/Son return you mean?
     
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  2. The Changing Man

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    Will be interesting to see how (or if) last nights defeat affects team selection on Sunday, bearing in mind that we have Watford in the prem on Wednesday next week too.

    Had we got through I think that a largely 2nd string XI would have been picked, and I think that people would have accepted that. But going out will certainly, for some here, mean that we should pick the best team we can. But we are reaching a pivotal time in the season and I think that the club and the manager will be more concerned with putting a rested best available XI out v Watford than V Palace because in the long term a top 4 finish and Champions league qualification takes precedence over winning the FA Cup in the clubs plans. As much I would love to win the cup, with the injuries we must look after our best players and if that means giving starts to the likes Sterling and Marsh on Sunday then I am all in favour.
     
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  3. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Well that's the blue touch paper lit.......and I agree with every word.
     
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  4. Spurlock

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    Too many justifications from fans all the time for when we fall at the same hurdle.

    Anyone suggesting Levy should do things slightly different gets brushed with an air of doubt as a fan...not on really.

    To suggest Levy should have strengthened the squad in the Summer is not an outlandish proposal considering we are discussing football, not rebuilding Iraq.

    I really need to know in which season the money will start to become available for Poch? Personally I think we will be scraping the barrel for a good few years yet and these same people will be saying well we have a stadium to pay off.
     
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  5. Spurlock

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    The money influx has allowed clubs smaller than us to act richer than us. Levy's financial structure for our club has been blown out if the water. The money teams can still spend and those smaller than us have closed the gap. We have stayed still. It's a bit like a transfer saga involving Levy. He never budges and we miss out. Same here really and he's got everyone paranoid that we are doomed to fail if he becomes a bit braver.

    I'm not buying it that a club of our stature doesn't have two pennies to rub together for a decent attempt to strengthen the squad
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

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    A lot of reports said Levy made funds available in the summer but Pochettino didn't like any of the possible players enough to spend.

    The stadium should generate 50 to 100m per season net of financing.
     
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  7. Spurlock

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    From season 1 of moving in?

    Not being confrontational...I'm genuinely interested to know why everyone is so calm about things.
     
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  8. PowerSpurs

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    I think so. As soon as it is open we can refinance it and I think its costs can be amortized over 15 or 20 years. Probably around 75m a year. Estimates of income seem to be in the 125m to 175m range
    It might even be that refinancing gives an opportunity to inject cash without breaking the FFP rules.
     
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  9. PowerSpurs

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    I actually approve of a policy not to pay more than we think players are worth. However someone other than Levy should be doing the valuation. I'd be surprised if the club didn't have a very sophisticated model for pricing players.
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Nothing anyone says or does is going to change anything. The Lewis/Levy and probably, Pochettino axis are working to a plan. Build the training ground, build the stadium, refinance and move on from there with our future a bright one.

    There are bits of that plan that I (or any other supporter) might want done differently but what are the chances that those are beyond the board and haven't been considered? Almost certainly, nil. So, is railing against the existing order and their plan going to do any good or divide the club at a time when we need to be unified?

    MP's asked for supporters to get behind him and the boys. I'm gonna go with that because it might do some good. Guessing at what may or may not be happening behind the veil and complaining about it won't make a spot of difference in what the club does but could do some harm to the team's chances. Right now, as fans, we need to be shouting our lungs out for the shirt and whoever wears it.
     
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  11. Spurlock

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    Always supporting the team Bri...just get a bit itchy with the other stuff as you know because ultimately I'm bothered about our team. We have weakened as a squad since our first attempt at the league title...so concerns are legitimate. Let's hope it comes together as is supposed to soon just hope we don't weaken further in the meantime.
     
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    The one when Citeh fully pay your transfer fee from Spurs 606
    (tis a lot of money - Citeh are stupid and we have rinsed them with
    an outrageous fee for "old rope" ) .
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

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    I don't think it's a lottery. It's practice.
    Our set-pieces as a whole are appalling, so I doubt we've spent much time on any of them, including penalties.
     
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  14. remembercolinlee

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    Not sure I agree...Kane, Dele and Son take our penalties (depending who is on the pitch) and I only remember Kane missing 2. Plus we won our last penalty shoot out. I do not think it is a coincidence that the 2 we missed were from players who had just returned from injuries.
    Our set pieces are cack though!
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    We have 5 players in the squad who I'd trust with a penalty - HK, Dele, Sonny, Christian Eriksen and Kieran Trippier. I don't trust Coco, even if he scored last night.

    Unfortunately, only one of them was on the pitch. We were ****ed before the first penalty was taken.
     
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    Llorente. His penalty against Watford was unbelievable. So we took him off. <doh>
     
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  17. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Yes, I forgot about him, that was a belter. I never had any faith in Lucas and Eric Dier's for England was cause for concern.
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

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    I'd rather avoid the bloody things in the first place, but practicing them should be mandatory for the entire squad of any team.
    Just turn it into another squad morale thing and make a game of it.
    If we can turn netmegging every ****er in the league into a thing, then it shouldn't be hard to do.
     
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  19. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Dier went through the whole practice thing last summer......and he made a complete ****ing mess of it. It's in the head and relatively siimple. You need to pick a spot and hit it there. Don't change your mind. If you're a limited finisher, hit it ****ing hard......but get the ****er on target. If you miss the goal, you shouldn't be paid for a month.
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

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    You'd just get players placing it with no power to avoid getting fined.
     
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