IT won't though.... i think its projects that are ongoing etc so why would it grow if we've started no new ones. Anyway... the choice between an issue and a deal in 3 or 6 months time then of course they will. Even pushing the disaster 3 months down road is better for preparations for siad disaster. No companies and countries are ready for no deal... none.... if theres no plan b and HARDEST brexit is likely then woudl you rather an emergency 7 months contingency plan or remain as is for 6 months and develop better "managed" disaster. Extension makes sense for everyone bar those who want to short the pound and make a killing
Rees-Mogg says reformed Brexit deal could win over critics please log in to view this image Image copyrightEPA Jacob Rees-Mogg says he believes Theresa May's Brexit deal could be "reformed" to win round opponents. The Brexiteer - one of 118 Tory MPs who voted against the deal last week - said he had more optimism that "things were going our way". But he said as long as the Northern Ireland "backstop" was part of the deal he would not vote for it. The EU's negotiator Michel Barnier said there were currently only two Brexit options - the PM's deal or no deal. And he warned that even if MPs decided to take no deal off the table, it would not stop it from happening unless there was "a positive majority for another solution". Under current law, the UK will exit the EU on 29 March, whether or not a deal has been struck. The decision to leave was taken by 52% to 48% in a referendum in June 2016. The backstop element of Mrs May's deal seeks to keep a border open between Northern Ireland and Ireland with no checks on people or goods regardless of what deal is signed. But critics say it keeps Northern Ireland too closely aligned with the EU and separate from the rest of the UK - and that the UK would be permanently trapped in it. Brexit delay is 'most likely' - Osborne Far-right groups 'could exploit Brexit' Brexit prompts Sony's Europe HQ move What is the latest from Parliament? MPs - many of whom oppose a no deal Brexit - are proposing alternative plans to the PM's deal with the EU, including seeking an extension to the UK's exit date. The UK is currently scheduled to leave at 23:00 GMT on 29 March. The other 27 EU member states would need to agree such an extension. Mr Rees-Mogg suggested that the government could use "prorogation" - a procedure to shut down Parliament - to stop any backbench bills trying to delay the UK's departure. The constitutional move would involve the agreement of the Queen to bring the current session of Parliament to an end early and Mr Rees-Mogg called it the "government's backstop" to ensuring Brexit went ahead. But Mrs May has said the "right way" to ensure Brexit, and rule out no-deal, was to approve her withdrawal agreement. please log in to view this image Media playback is unsupported on your device Jeremy Corbyn asks PM about "third of her government at the billionaires’ jamboree in Davos". Exit player Media captionJeremy Corbyn asks PM about "third of her government at the billionaires’ jamboree in Davos". At Prime Minister's Questions, she told MPs delaying Brexit would not "solve the situation", adding: "The decision remains the same - the deal, no-deal or no Brexit." Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn accused her of having a "closed mind" to other Brexit options - such his party's plan for a customs union with the EU - which he believes a majority of MPs could get behind. He also repeated his call for the PM to rule out no deal. But Mrs May attacked the Labour leader for refusing to take part in cross-party talks with her on the way forward and accused him of not understanding his own policy and its "implications" for UK trade. The PM is meeting the Scottish and Welsh First Ministers for talks on the next steps for Brexit, but the Scottish leader, Nicola Sturgeon, has already said she supports seeking an extension to the Brexit deadline. Are Brexiteers warming to the PM's deal? Mr Rees-Mogg - who is the chairman of the pro-Leave European Research Group - gave a speech in Westminster on Wednesday saying he wanted a deal, but could not vote for Mrs May's plan while the backstop was in place. "Everybody wants a deal; the prime minister wants a deal, the EU wants a deal and the Irish wants a deal," he said. "And if the only way to get it is by re-opening the text (of the withdrawal agreement), that is what they will have to do." After leaving Downing Street after a meeting with the government's chief whip, former Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said: "There is every chance that if the UK now negotiates with conviction and if we really mean it this time we can secure the changes that we need." The prime minister's supporters say they believe some opponents of Mrs May's deal are now willing to consider backing it because of the moves by other MPs to delay Brexit. Are there signs of movement from the EU? Not on the Irish backstop - chief negotiator Michel Barnier has said the EU would not be willing to put a time limit on it. But he said the backstop was not the "central issue" and the debate was now about the future shape of the UK's relationship with the EU, after it leaves with a deal. "We're cooperating with the British government. Things could start moving rapidly," Mr Barnier told The Luxembourg Times. "We are ready to be more ambitious if the British decide to shift their red lines, for example by remaining in a customs union, or participating in the single market. I believe there is a readiness in London for that." Speaking later, Mr Barnier said there appeared to be a majority in the House of Commons to oppose a no-deal "but opposing no-deal will not stop no deal from happening at the end of March... a positive majority for another solution will need to emerge". German Economic Minister Peter Altmeir said a no deal should be avoided at all costs, and that if it meant extending UK membership of the EU beyond 29 March, Germany would be supportive, adding: "It would certainly be considered seriously." What is going to happen next? Next Tuesday MPs will get to vote on Theresa May's way forward on Brexit, after rejecting her initial plan by a record-breaking 230 votes last Tuesday. Mrs May is hoping to tweak the deal to address concerns about the Northern Irish "backstop" among her own backbenchers and Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party, which she relies on to keep her in power. But MPs are attempting to take control of the Brexit process by tabling amendments to Mrs May's plans. What are the main amendments? please log in to view this image Labour MP Yvette Cooper has tabled an amendment that would give time for a bill to suspend the Article 50 process for leaving the EU if a new deal has not been agreed with Brussels by the end of February. It has been backed by several Remainer Conservatives and is the only amendment that would be legally binding on the government, if passed. A guide to MPs' Brexit amendments Other amendments would ask the government to consider a range of options over six full days in Parliament before the March deadline or set up a "Citizens' Assembly" to give the public more say. Another proposal seeks to win over some opponents of the prime minister's deal by insisting on "an expiry date to the backstop", the "insurance policy" intended to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland. please log in to view this image Media playback is unsupported on your device Liam Fox is questioned on the rationale behind a potentially disruptive no deal Brexit Exit player Media captionLiam Fox is questioned on the rationale behind a potentially disruptive no deal Brexit Shadow chancellor John McDonnell told the BBC's Newsnight that it was "highly likely" the party would back Yvette Cooper's amendment, which would significantly increase its chances of getting through. International Trade Secretary Liam Fox said delaying or cancelling Brexit with such amendments would be a "calamitous" breach of trust with the electorate and worse than leaving the EU with no deal, accusing those of pushing for a delay of actually wanting to stop Brexit. But Conservative Remainer Anna Soubry said it was "not true" that Tory MPs backing the move wanted to stop Brexit as they had voted for Mrs May's deal. Her colleague, Nick Boles, said Mr Fox had "never been very good at detail". What's the latest on the backstop - and what is it? The backstop is a position of last resort, designed to maintain an open border on the island of Ireland whatever arrangement the UK and the EU end up with. At present, goods and services are traded between the two jurisdictions on the island of Ireland with few restrictions because the UK and Ireland are both part of the EU single market and customs union, so products do not need to be inspected for customs and standards. But, after Brexit, all that could change - the two parts of Ireland could be in different customs and regulatory regimes, which could mean products being checked at the border. Both the UK and the EU worry that having a visible border could put the peace process at risk. please log in to view this image Media playback is unsupported on your device What will become of the Irish border when the UK leaves the European Union? Exit player Media captionBBC News NI's political reporter Jayne McCormack explains why the border is an issue The backstop is opposed by some Conservative MPs and Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party because it could mean keeping the UK in a customs union with the EU indefinitely and having different rules for different parts of the UK. But the Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Leo Varadkar said he could not give up the formal guarantee of the backstop "for a promise that it will be all right on the night". The European Commission also warned that it was "obvious" that a no-deal Brexit would mean a hard border in Ireland. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
So mogg suggests best way to save democracy in the UK is to end democracy in the UK. You literally couldn't make this up. I believe senator Palpatine tried this trick to great effect once.
Point 1 - it may well as any lengthy extension moves us into the next budget period. Point 2 . disagree as imo the EU will prefer no deal now to 6 months time as they loath the uncertainty hence why they were so keen we trigger A50.
1. The next budget cycle doesn’t start until 2021, and any agreed extension wouldn’t be anywhere near that long. 2. Neither side wants no deal, and a further 6 months wouldn’t be an obstacle for the EU imo, as the likelihood of a no deal outcome in that event would be practically zero, as either a compromise would be reached or a further vote scheduled.
1. bet you the bill would go up with any extension less than a couple of months 2.because a further vote would mean the HoC actually agreeing a deal ? what form would this deal take.
oh like the French or Spanish or several.others who supported failed rebellions over centuries? das reich wouldn't even bat an eyelid imo
Nope, take on one EU country and you take on them all, also since the failed rebellions and the famine and the war of independence from Britain the Irish diaspora has reached millions including some in the US Senate also globally and they wouldn't allow GB to get away with the **** they used to.
It’d potentially go up pro rata to the length of the extension on top of the transition period and in line with the current payments, the future budget is irrelevant. The Brexiters will end up with a stark choice, pass whatever May can get altered (if anything) with regards to the backstop, on her current deal, or face the decision being put back to the public, as no deal isn’t happening, despite all of the bluster.
Extension amendment seems agreed. December 2019. Corbyn is going to back that one and it will therefore probably sail through as enough Tories support it
The ultras will like Rees-Mogg swallow hard pinch their nose and vote for May’s deal. They are already back pedalling saying that they could be persuaded if the backstop is removed. That was May’s strategy all along. Giving her ultras no choice but to back her. My deal or No Brexit. For the opposition her threat: my deal or no deal Brexit Incredible if that happens. A Parliament that rejects a proposed bill by 230 then accepts it 2 weeks later with nothing changed.
So it's her deal, no deal or no brexit... No brexit would send the country into complete meltdown, really can't see that as a valid option. Can she even go with her deal after last weeks voting?
