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Sorensen... The Real Deal?

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  1. Mick O'Toon

    Mick O'Toon Well-Known Member

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    Was Sorenson rested tonight? BTW losing 4 nil fs
     
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  2. Judge Death

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    Subbed part way through second half - got clattered in 1st half, but not sure if that was why

    Fingers crossed he's being rested for Saturday...
     
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  3. Lord Jonjomort

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    Was a bit crap I believe. Rondon Saturday with good ol Hoss on the bench.
     
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  4. Gordonthetoony

    Gordonthetoony Well-Known Member

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    Very, very young side out tonight. Another cup Rafa couldn't give a toss about.
     
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  5. kytoonfan

    kytoonfan New Member

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    I've heard he's played rubbish in a lot of matches but scores. Now would he be able to do that in the premier league I mean score I have my doubts I'm all for giving him a chance at Blackburn but I wouldn't play him at Chelsea maybe with Muto away at the Aisa cup maybe have him on the bench at Chelsea there's a massive gap between junior football and premier league football.
     
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  6. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    He was anonymous tonight in my humble opinion. I watched him with interest as he has been linked with a loan move to us. I didn’t eee him get “clattered”. To be fair your kids played some ok stuff at times but our 70% reserves completely outplayed them. And our 2 youngsters (Mumba - youngester player on show tonight on either side, and Kimpioka - younger than most of yours) looked streets ahead of your youngsters. Might be because we have a gaffer who gives our youngsters a chance.
     
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  7. jimileysbaldhead

    jimileysbaldhead Well-Known Member

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    You're spot on......Sunderland have a history for grooming youngsters.
     
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  8. Ben 10

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    Massive deal of difference in giving youngsters a chance in the third division to the big league
     
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  9. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    <laugh> oh the irony!
     
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  10. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    This is a key point.
    If we crashed through 2 divisions and had a relatively unknown manager in charge I'd expect him to blood most of our youngsters too.
     
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  11. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    Sure, but there's no escaping how **** our youth set-up actually is.

    Notice the Daily Mail ran a story yesterday suggesting the club might be incompetent in its' handling of Peter Beardsley, who has now been suspended on full pay for an entire year.....
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    <laugh>
     
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  13. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    We've blooded youngsters for years at all levels and have a decent history of it - Henderson & Pickford picked for England (Colback in a squad but dropped out cos of injury but he was picked - not that I could understand why!)

    Henderson and Pickford fetched almost £50m in transfer fees - because we blooded them in the premier league. Players will stay at the level if not given the chance - need to be loaned out and given 1st team experience if they're not getting it in house - only player in your starting 11 last night who I though looked OK was the number 44 in midfield - no idea of his name but he looked OK on the ball. Liked falling over mind!

    I have to say I saw none of your players last night that I would have playing at SAFC so I understand them not getting a chance but surely it hasn't been that way all the time since Rafa started there?

    I do agree it's easier to blood at a lower level - but that's what the loan market is for - loan them out to a lower league to gain the experience - you have 3 players out on loan (Saivet, Colback and Gayle - all senior players) - We have 3 out on loan and 2 of ours are kids gaining experience - and we've just recalled other kids who were in the squad last night and will likely be loaned out for the remainder of the season.
     
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  14. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    and look where it got you the Turd Division

    we did they same with Paul Gascoigne, Chris Waddle, Peter Beardsley all England Internationals all sold for big money at the time
    where did it get us - the second division

    definately not the Turd
     
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  15. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Neither Sunderland nor Newcastle have a good recent history of producing quality youngsters or giving them a chance. I'm regularly told by Sunderland supporting friends that they have a fantastic academy, we are miles behind them, etc etc. Then I ask them to name this illustrious list of youngsters they have produced. "Henderson and Pickford". Great. One guy who last played for them about 7 or 8 year ago and Pickford. Sorry is that it?

    Well if there is no time limit on these things Aaron Hughes, Steve Watson, Steve Howey, Robbie Elliott, Andy Carroll, Steven Taylor, Lee Clark, Paul Dummett, Fraser Forster, Tim Krul, Kevin Mbabu, Shola Ameobi, Adam Armstrong - I mean most of these played at the PL level, many have international appearances to their name.

    I think the big difference is Newcastle supporters accept that their academy has not been a roaring success. Whereas Sunderland supporters appear to be completely deluded.
     
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  16. Albert's Chip Shop

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    I blame Pardew.
     
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  17. Ben 10

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    That accent :afro:
     
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  18. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Now loaned out to Blackpool.
     
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  19. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

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    Will be good for his development, just need to make sure if he does well and gets some goals down there we give him a chance.
     
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  20. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    You would hope so but hasn't worked for anyone who has gone out on loan and done well.
     
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