Why do you hate Man Utd?

Most of the fans at the club on matchdays are from London or the home counties. We do get a fair few tourists that don't sing and since they turned up the atmosphere has suffered at the bridge. I am happy to dis them.

 

Stop moving the goalposts,the home counties are'nt in west London are they?,there are other clubs nearer to Bedfordshire,Herfordshire etc than Chelsea are'nt there?.
So you can live 20-30 miles from Stamford Bridge yet not be classed as a gloryhunters by you yet custard who lives 70 miles from OT is?

 

I just find it a strange concept that people want to dis fellow supporters of the same club. It's as though rivalry between clubs isn't enough to satisfy them and there's still a bit more hating to be done.

 

I meant Surrey when I said home counties. Middlesex, Hertfordshire and parts of Essex provide a lot of support for Spurs and Arsenal. Essex and Kent for West Ham. London is a massive city surrounded by lots of counties. 70 miles is over twice the amount of 30 miles.

 

It's not quite hate. That's too strong a word. I just remember an era when people supported their local team.

 

That era's been and gone. I support Liverpool because I have a long list of Liverpool supporters in my family who were born in Liverpool, yet I was born and raised in Yorkshire. That doesn't make me a plastic supporter, because if I'm a plastic supporter then 95% of Arsenal, City, Chelsea and United's fan bases are all arm chair plastics.

My grandad owned the surgery down the road from Anfield too.

 

yep and it's a sad state of affairs when there are so many glory hunters around. You have a family connection, so no I wouldn't call you a plastic.

 

What makes some of this funny for me is, being American, I get that tag hurled this way a lot. Thing is, I am from Memphis, the last professional team we had there was in the 70's with the NASL and MISL ( indoor). I had NO local team to support! The only local team was the semi-pro team ( not defunct Memphis Express) and I played for them for 2 years!

After this, the MLS didn't start until 96, so who was I to support before then? I was born in the 80's so was I supposed to go teamless? I would like to think I am far from a glory hunter as I started to support Liverpool in the 90's and they had no success at all. Did it help that they were still the top team in terms of trophies? of course, but this was when United started garnering all the support on this side of the pond and I chose not to support them. Many see on previous avatars Macca and he was my favorite player growing up and really helped tie me into Liverpool.

Again, I don't support other English teams, I don't jump on bandwagons. I feel I have a pretty sound knowledge of the club, trophies, players, tragedies, etc and I don't veer from it, I embraced it as my own and feel I belong, even if I am thousands of miles away.

 

Your view is'nt the policy of your club mate.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/SupporterClubsMap

 

And I am supposed to agree with everything the club does? Believe me I disagree with a lot of things my club does.

 

I don't hate anything (apart from sandwich spread) so until you asked i was just reading the thread and having a laugh at the United and Liverpool fans having a pop at each other, having said that i hope they get relegated and we finish top.

 

So your a bit of a Victor Meldrew then.

 

I don't believe it!! I might be accused of harping back to the 'good old' days. You know jumpers for goal posts and all that...

 

err no, do you ****.

 

Again so true.

 

Ess
I don't actually disagree with many of the points you're making, just the conclusion you draw from them. Everyone used to support their local club, true, but when television made footie a feature people started to see teams that they wouldn't normally see much of, and it was obvious it would go this way eventually.
Also success brings greater coverage and therefore a wider fanbase, it's natural.
I've never really understood why people support a team they have no real connection with, but they do and I'm happy to respect that.
Some of us were lucky enought to be brought up near top clubs and shouldn't look down on those who weren't, imo.

 

That for me is another infuriating aspect. Most of their songs are either anti-Liverpool or anti-Chelsea. And they have banners all over the place about City's 34 years and 19 etc.

United fans I know in London take more pleasure out of a Chelsea (the local team where I live) defeat then they do with a United victory.

I just don't get it with United fans. They win the Champions League yet seem more interested in the Chelsea captain who unfortunately slipped and missed a penalty.

They win a match yet are more interested in singing "Are you watching Merseyside?" as apposed to supporting their team.

At least the Arsenal fans I know to their credit won't go hiding when they lose i.e the 8-2. From 2003-2006 you didn't hear from one United fan, then come 2008 everybody supported them and has been a lifelong fan and has family in Manchester.

 

Tottenham fans were right "You only sing about the scousers"

 

Ess

To an extent I totally agree with you. Although I do not always agree you have to support your local team.

It wouldn't bother me if someone living in Sheffield decided to support a team like Spurs or Aston Villa i.e not a team that wins things more often than not. What I hate are these hoards of plastic United and Liverpool fans where I live in the Midlands that just come in the pub/bar etc looking all smug and then trying to join in chants etc and slating both opposition players and their own as if they have a season ticket in the Stretford End.

There was one United fan (when they got thrashed by Liverpool last season) that was mocking Hillsborough and singing vulgar anti-Liverpool songs throughout and I swear I literally wanted to knock him out. The friend he was with that "supported" United had to be told that they won the treble in 1999 and he was older than me.

I don't hate United, I just loathe everything they stand for in modern society. I hate clubs like West Ham, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal etc far more

That is what hurt most of all about losing the CL final to them, the fact that there could not be a more undeserving set of supporters in the world to see their team win it, in contrast you would be hard pushed to find more loyal supporters than (proper) Chelsea. I honestly would not have been bothered if we had lost to City or Everton for instance who have proper fans with loyal support. I even said before we played the FA Cup final in 2009 if we lost I could take consolation out of the fact we would have lost it to a proper club with proper supporters

 

Chelsea hate everyone. We have anti-Tottenham/Man U/Arsenal/Leeds/Liverpool/West Ham/Leicester/Newcastle chants you name it. The difference between Chelsea and clubs like United and Spurs is that we prioritise our success over rivals failures.

There were Spurs fans holding hands with United fans to celebrate the fact they had denied Arsenal the league title in 99, same with Chelsea 10 years later. To a Spurs fan, seeing Arsenal and to a lesser extent Chelsea fail means more than their own team succeeding. When Chelsea beat West Ham in 86 to all but cost them the title you didn't see our fans jumping up and down celebrating as if Chelsea had won the WC

For me it just oozes of lack of class, small club mentality and most of all a superiority complex (in Spurs' case inferiority complex)