If someone was going to offer me £300k a week to retire to China then I would be off. He is gash, take the money and enjoy the rest of your life in luxury. Or become a West Ham legend with Noble and Julian Dicks??
Would rather be happy with who he signed in summer (plus secure long term deals for Zouma and Gomes) and wait for another similar summer window than throw good money after bad. Koeman and Sam spunked loads on dross in a way that hasn’t been seen before.
To be fair, you can't blame West Ham here....they've invested quite heavily and are actually looking half decent....but if a player wants a move, typically he gets a move these days. Totally agree with you about what it tells you of the player
Too many fail to grasp this concept. You see the same old argument trotted out: "you'd change jobs if you were offered more". Well maybe, but if I was already earning a few million a year there are other factors that would have a bearing on my decision.
the reality is you've a decent back 5 for 7th place in the prem with zouma and mina.. and keane as reserve. I'm not sure they are put to pushing you any higher. your midfield needs work. I'm not sure just adding a striker will solve everything. Sigurdsson is meh. You need to really back lookman and not be playing walcott. My god why you are playing that guy i just don't know.
But you have to look at it like this. The guy is supposedly on 100k per week here or 5.2million before tax over 5 years. (thats 26million or a lottery win... before tax (he proba has ways of dodging as much as poss just like they all do. But some chinese crowd are going to offer 300k per week or 78million.... with whatever deals they do on tx. Now to the lay man theres a fabulous life either way but the the mega rich from the age of 35 to the age of 90 say... thats a long time to live of your funds in luxure. Many footballers have weighed this up and gone for the mega wages and suffered for 2 years and pocketed the cash and moved on. very few get ozil level wages in europe. There are mindsets out there that see this as a logical career move and only for 2 or 3 years and its perfectly logical just as moving to england was. We have to remember a player like a coutinho or this guy are not from here and perhaps had no intent to even stay here. My point would be thier decision are not the same as ours by the nature of their career. We work in a job we could work it for 30 or 40 years if place stays open. A footballer can be sold on after 2 years if he fails to work out or if manager changes, its entirely unpredictable. therefore where we would have roots set down and would find a move of jobs a major life decision for them its a cycle they could go through 6 or 7 times in a career.
He has some work to do. Would like a less scattergun approach and that seems to be the plan. Secure Gomes in the summer and Zouma. Then add players of similar quality if possible, I’m not sold on Mina....like a Diouf, World Cup hype signing IMO. Sigurdsson Meh? hmmmmm
exactly, some people think these guys are moving from the NHS saving lives all day to working for donald trump as his lawyer. All in all, it'd be the equivalent of working for the NHS up in newcastle to working for the NHS in london when the guy is originally imported in from india. same job different place but for more moolah.
Mina is a big lump, useful for attacking set piece and for defending against hoofball sides. Zouma frankly aint much better imo. He's a bloody big unit. Pickford Coleman Keane Mina Digne Not too bad that. theres a very mixed bag of defenders below this Gomes and Gueye... just ok. I thought gomes played very well agasisnt us but i reckon he could be nullified very easily. your issue is you've nothing really but millstones to back this. you won bernard yeah? So Lookman Siggurdsson bernard is a very possible set of second forwards Richarldson up front IMO still. this lads is just too good to be relegated to a second line and stuck wide. He's just the type of nasty bugger needed to succeed in prem. The thing is then if you play that first 11 week in and week out where will you get to? 7th? 6th? If the aim is to get any higer then IMO gomes and gueye are not up to it. ... and neither is siggurdsson.
He isn’t gonna win a trophy, player of the year. So jack it in, move to China and swing the lead for a few years. If I had the chance to do my job in China for more cash.....adios!
suppose. Though even the NHS isn't enough of an example. IF the guy is a locum doctor who might be told to chuff off at any time then its close.
Oh, come on. Most high earning footballers get in a week what a doctor makes in a year. It's a pointless analogy. If a footballer can't live in luxury for the rest of his life on whatever figure you threw out then there's something seriously wrong with his financial acumen. My point is that top footballers should be easily financially secure, so other factors should influence their decision. If I was a footballer I'd be happier to play every week for a mid-table team for 50k than sit on a top 6 bench for twice as much. Surely you want to do what you're good at? You're throwing away the best years of your physical peak in the pursuit of money you don't need. We see these figures bandied about so much that I think people have become numbed to the reality of what a ridiculous amount of money it is for kicking a ball about. Crazy.
Like saint I think comparing a ridiculously overpaid premiership player to an NHS doctor is off the mark. One earns in one week what the other would earn in a year. even if the NHS doctor is a highly ranked surgeon he would still earn a very small fraction and he has no luxury of retiring early unless he does very lucrative private practice and works hard at it and then at retirement his income would drop significantly too. The premiership player earns during his contract assuming 100k/week a sum of £20.8m (£100k x52 wks x 4yrs). Sure the extra the player would earn would be tens of millions. Not an inconsiderable amount and before I condemn him I would consdier whether he has further use for that money (who knows): big donations, charitable projects, helping the youth in his home town etc
Thats fair enough but then comparing to anyone of a regular job is also pointless. How about the following: Career track senior executives who move globally to push themselves up the path towards VP and CEO levels. they travel the globe and make the family decisions based on climbing that ladder If we mix what bobby, PJ and you and Z have said a) Is this player going to win medals or progress up to win medals where he is OR at another english club..... highly unlikely b) Is the player deeply committed to west ham? he only moved in 2017 to there. so no. c) Does the player love life in london. I don't know, is the players family/kids (Idon't know) d) where is player moving to? Its unknown... is there a lovely city that's just as cosmopolitan and foreign schools etc.. I don't know. Is your point on of "happiness"? who is to say that West ham games are any better than games in china? Who's to say he will be bored? Who's to say he is throwing away anything of his career by going? Then we come to the question? whats his career for? personal fulfilment, medals? entertaining the ceowads? Money? I presume by saying he is wasting his career you are saying he is playing at a much lower level and not attaining the levels he could?
