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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Nothing, it's a statement of fact.
     
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  2. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    Funny to watch both remain and leave sides celebrating and claiming victory tonight. At least one side is celebrating a pyrrhic victory and time will tell which side that is.

    I think the tone May struck in her point of order was telling - it was conciliatory and softer than previous statements. There clearly isn't a majority for no deal, or for anything harder. If Corbyn loses tomorrow (which he will) I would imagine a softer exit or a second referendum becomes much more likely.
     
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  3. Star of David Bardsley

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    REMOANER
     
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  5. ELLERS

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    Your always going to support the EU Watford.
     
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  6. ELLERS

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    Okay I will have a beer on it.
     
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  7. Staines R's

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    But it’s not fact is it. You’re getting worse than the lying politicians of all sides that blight our screens every night.
     
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  8. ELLERS

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    Other than the usual suspects (Chukka, Vince Lammy) most have said no to a losers vote. I can't see it as they are too worried about their seats. Interesting comments just in confirm that.

    Once again we were told if May lost the pound would drop like a stone... Funny the BBC has said it's gone up.
     
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  10. Star of David Bardsley

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    It’s nothing to do with the EU. It’s just this one bloke’s comment, which I can’t understand anyone disagreeing with.
     
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  11. ELLERS

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    Bloody hell how many remoaners can you fit into the news tonight?
     
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  12. Quite Possibly Raving

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    I agree it's still unlikely. However, I think a softer deal is now very likely and that the ERG and others will regret opposing this deal so passionately.
     
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  13. ELLERS

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    It's called impartiality He is getting a bashing on Twitter and even after he said it an MP in the studio said it was wrong.
     
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  14. ELLERS

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    Wasn't just the ERG. They were only part of it. It would look like a softer Brexit but voters would never forgive them (Labour/Con).
     
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  15. Stroller

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    The £ will have risen because the likelihood of a softer Brexit, or no Brexit at all, has increased.
     
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  16. ELLERS

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    You can't have it both ways?
    It also means there is more chance of a 'No deal'. People don't seem to understand that it is written in law and only the government can determine. MP's can say what they want but they can't stop it without something which would be very difficult. The legal expert confirmed earlier, that's why MP's keep asking her to rule it out, which she hasn't and shouldn't as it's an important card to have in negotiations. The EU are crapping themselves of a no deal. I would let the clock run down and see the cave in.
     
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  17. YorkshireHoopster

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    Interesting that even in the Commons this afternoon, JRM was still stating that she should lead the country into the next phase. But then he has always come from Planet Zog. Still losing by 230 odd is a damn sight better than any one on the Brexit side would achieve if given the chance now to push for running the clock down with no deal.
     
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  18. ELLERS

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    Remember the default is a 'no deal'.
     
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  19. ELLERS

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    I would also add that a soft Brexit including Customs union and Single market is not exactly 'taking back control'. I can't see it as too many MP's won't risk their seats.
     
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