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Josh Brownhill Told He Can Leave.

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  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    EXCLUSIVE: Three clubs interested as Bristol City tell midfield star he can leave
    Date published: Sunday 13th January 2019 10:57

    Bristol City have told midfielder star Josh Brownhill that he can leave this month for the Premier League, if they receive a suitable offer, we can exclusively reveal.

    The former Manchester United youngster has emerged as one of the Championships stand-out performers this term and he scored a brilliant solo goal to knockout Huddersfield in the FA Cup earlier this week.

    Leicester, Bournemouth and Brighton are all weighing up January offers, as Brownhill looks set to be the latest City star sold on for big money in recent seasons with the likes of Bobby Reid, Joe Bryan and Aden Flint all sold on for big fees.
    https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclu...-bristol-city-tell-midfield-star-he-can-leave
     
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  2. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    I honestly bloody hope not.
     
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  3. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    That's not good news for us, but can never stand in the way of a player that wants to improve his career..
     
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  4. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    I think Cities philosophy is "any player can leave if they meet the criteria"
    I GUESS if a club phoned up and said we will give you £10m for Joe Morrel, the club would have the player in the office and give him the news and any advice …
    like, bear in mind they are ? in the league … have at least 3 / ? other players in that position … and we believe you are worth it … we would like you to stay …... the choice is yours!
    They have an open dialogue that has stated " any player ...blah blah blah ………….. "
     
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  5. NickH

    NickH Well-Known Member

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    There's got to be more to this than the headline suggests - as John has suggested it could be in as much as any player has his price. To lose a key player in the January window, and one so young with the potential for greater things, you'd think it would take something like £15m+ to even be considered, and even then a replacement lined up, such as Isaac Hayden from Newcastle.

    Hope it doesn't happen though.
     
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  6. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    There are different attitudes and opinions on when and how you value selling your prize players, times, habits and fashion changes so much over the years, imagine the hue and cry if we would have cashed in on Big John (The Superb) Atyeo of the 50's and early 60's, or Gerry Gow in the years leading up to our 1st division days, I do well remember when Chrissie Garland was bumped off to Chelsea that caused a ruck amongst our fanbase, in our dark days we had to sell off or move on because of our financial plight and it was accepted with realism, times moved on again and and our views with them, we now call players tradable assets and they are prepared from the academy to be moved on and make a business profit for the club and all the maggots that surround transactions on the peripheries, we all accept as a norm these days, it's just business.

    Anyway, I find myself falling in the middle of the pond on this one, I want us to be able to trade up as LJ put's it and improve our quality but still have this inner feeling that by disposing of our best players we show little ambition of seeking promotion.

    There you are, should we, could we, would we, the grass is always greener, I dunno', leave it up to the experts.
     
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  7. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Agree Nick , any player does have his price , also we can’t stand a in any players way if the opportunity arrives to play in the premier League, as long as we have done our homework and buy a suitable replacement I’ve no issue.

    Didn’t SL say as much a couple of seasons ago, something along the lines of not getting too attached to players, as our strategy was going to be bring in promising players , bring them on and when the time was right sell for a profit.

    Not sure January is the best time, as may be more difficult to bring in replacements.
     
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  8. NickH

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    Of course no fan wants to think of their club being a 'selling club', but the reality is that there is no club too big to hold onto their player if he himself wants to move for any reason - look at Cristiano Ronaldo moving to Real from Manchester Utd and to Juventus from Real as the most extreme comparison.

    Times have changed since the likes of Atyeo and Gow, & I don't think it's fair to compare. Players have more power & freedom nowadays & whilst there are occasions where it seems as though they act unsavoury &/or greedy as a result, back in the day the balance was too much in favour of the clubs (see the treatment of Jean-Marc Bosman as a citation & the rule changes named after him).

    I think a mature way of looking at things is that clubs and players need to have mutual respect for each other's interests as well as their own. Fans can be particularly hypocritical in accusing key players who want to move onto better things as ungrateful & lacking loyalty, but then saying that such and such needs to be ditched. Loyalty doesn't seem to be as much of an issue to these fans when we're trying to sign these players in the first place does it? It's not as though Josh Brownhill's a through and through Bristolian, born and raised, on the playground was where he spent most of his days (a point for identifying the reference!). If he were 'loyal' & not at a 'selling club' he'd still be at Preston.

    I think the best & most reasonable thing the club can say is that they won't stop players from moving on provided they get a fair price & have suitable cover & that's pretty much precisely what has happened in recent years. Again, though fans don't want to think of their club as a stepping stone, the more talented players that see others develop & reach higher heights having spent time at City, the more likely they are to want to come here themselves, which is good for us also.
     
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  9. Alandicksthegreat

    Alandicksthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Wonder where this information comes from, me i'm not convinced it's true, if it is that's know way to build a team hopefully heading to the promised land, if it's true why support a club with no ambition.
     
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  10. AshtonRed

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    I do believe Wiz had we not won promotion to Division One when we did a few of our players would have gone. I was late teens and remember being desperate we went up or else the team would have been split up.

    I remember Ritchie and Merrick were both wanted by Arsenal and remember Cheesely didn’t play for England (not the senior team granted ) whilst we were vying for promotion as it would have interfered with our promotion push, so it’s always been around.

    I’m afraid Atyeo was just before my time so I can’t comment about him , although from stories my older brother and Dad told me Atyeo was a bit of a maverick so maybe that influenced him staying , also didn’t he have an arrangement with Harry Dolman that meant he was one of the highest earners in football in those days even though not playing in the top dovision at the time . It was before my time so maybe that was just something I dreamt .

    Either way times change and money wise at least the gulf between the Premier league and the rest of the leagues has never been greater .
     
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  11. NickH

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    If someone offered £20m-£25m for him and we had someone lined up for maybe £10m like Isaac Hayden, would that be good business or a sign of 'no ambition'?

    RR, you can answer this too seeing as you like any comment about the club having no ambition. Were all of our sales of players such as Reid, Bryan, Flint etc all bad despite the money we got for them and the players brought in?
     
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  12. Supcon72

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    I would hate to see him go, but as many have stated if he wants to play in the Prem and a too good to turn down offer comes in, we cannot ignore it. Once there is interest from clubs it turns players heads and invariably affects their form to the point you wish you had sold them. The key here will be getting the right fee, I believe he’s contracted to the end of next season, so no reason to be bent over in this one, anything above £12m would have to be very tempting for the club. As a player the only seemingly progressive option from the listed interested clubs has to be Leicester, the others are in a relegation battle which seldom sets the platform to step up a level, ask Bobby Teid and Joe Bryan....
     
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  13. NickH

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    Another factor is when a player knows a Premiership side wants him and asks to go, some fans will say 'we only want players who want to be here to stay', yet criticise letting said players go (or make stupid comments like 'let them rot in the reserves').
     
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  14. Red Robin

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    Reid excellent funds received
    Flint we should have got more.
    Bryan we should have got more.

    But apart from goal scoring issues we did well in Webster and De silva who I rate better than the two that departed.

    Casey looks like the cog in the whole behind Fammy and Taylor.
    Looking good I’m excited for the rest of the season.
    City and Johnson seem to be getting their act together with signings or is it Ashton.
     
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    It will be what it is and there is nothing we can do about it. I suppose the rational of him wanting to move upwards in his career is admirable but then again I would like him to stay longer and I just hope there are no other negative factors behind this apparent decision. Que sera.
     
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    Nope, nothing to do with me mate <laugh><laugh>
     
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  17. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    There was a bit of a feint rumour.:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    If the offer is high enough ( £15m + In my view) he will go , imo , at least with a decent amount of time left on his contract we will be in a fairly strong position to negotiate a deal we find acceptable.

    This is an area we have improved on massively recently.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    No brainier, of course good business, can’t see those type of figures being offered , but take your point.
     
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    The trouble is Nick , rightly or wrongly, there is always a question mark in the back of your mind whether the player gives 100% as not wanting to put at risk the move . For instance JB last season , what was the reason for his drop in form Xmas onwards , was it anyway influenced by his subsequent move to Fulham , I’m not saying it was but only human nature to wonder.
     
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