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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    You have the 5th most expensive squad in the country and can't even get top half.

    Until you move to Bramley-Moore of course.
     
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  2. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    But #bbcsalford dont care about that, they want to share the Klopp isn’t buying success story.
     
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  3. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    #bbcsalford have already tried twice to accuse Liverpool of buying the league but even they can't delude themselves that much, and they think Solskjaer is the new Busby
     
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  4. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Wow, so the whole of the world's football supporters should not want us to win the league title because we paid big money for a keeper and bought a midfielder at the going rate.

    Wind it in PJ or you start looking like a bitter Evertonian.<whistle>
     
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  5. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    @Tobes has #officially retired the spending argument against us

    I think the "lucky because of a Faustian deal" argument is still in play though
     
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  6. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    So they've had the article about a rapper making Anthony Martial smile, and now this...

    Someone seriously needs to get a grip of the flourishing Man Utd fan club that exists at Media City.<laugh>

    A savage 2017 diss track from Manchester United fans has emerged

    "A Liverpool FC fan Twitter account has - rather masochistically - shared this ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL diss track performed by a few of the Manchester United faithful."

    "Originally uploaded to YouTube in August 2017, Man United Da Fan, by XD Music Pro ft. Gursehaj Saini, has some wonderfully salty lyrics, such as, “Whoever thinks Liverpool is great…they’ve been mistaken for over 27 years”.

    "OUCH."



    Although lines like, “Klopp is a FLOP in the league, Klopp has been a failure in the EPL!” are fairly uncompromising, stuff like, “You say nobody can compete with Mane, don’t worry, our guy Pogba is great too”, shows a degree of balance, fairness and level-headedness that’s often sadly missing in the way fans talk about rival clubs."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/aa924db4-022b-4429-9756-93810f1bf462
     
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  7. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    they are impartial so everyone keeps telling us <laugh>

    bbc salford will go into meltdown if we win the league.
     
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  8. carlthejackal

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    Tbf he is not actually saying that. He is saying that the argument against City being big spenders and therefore should not be supported because of that is undermined by the fact that we have spent big too.

    I am still rather surprised that some of us have not caught on that we joined the big league in terms of spending ages ago. We have spent more than anyone else apart from City and Man United. We SHOULD be challenging for the title and we SHOULD have a squad deep enough to challenge on many fronts. Why the surprise at our status as if we are punching above our weight? We are not.
     
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  9. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    a lot of our spending power has come from selling players though. if we could have kept half the players we have sold and had money to improve squad like city and chelsea have managed yeah fair point about should be challenging. if you have to sell key players to buy others it balances itself out and you don't actually improve squad.

    of course there is the argument as well we have brought a lot of ****e, but my first point is still valid lol.
     
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  10. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I’m just pointing out the public perception that Liverpool haven’t spent big, a nice comment taken straight from the BBC was used.

    Let’s be honest, Klopp is spending.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    course he is.

    people just want to make excuses all the time.
     
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  12. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Of course he is, Klopp knew the keeper problem needed fixing bigtime and bought Allison for a record fee, and the fix worked dividends.
    Kieta £50?, how much should Klopp be allowed to spend on a defensive midfielder?, what he paid was the going rate.
    On the flip side, if Klopp didn't spend we'd be languishing in a low spot in the league like Everton, oh okay not that low but perhaps 5th or 6th?:emoticon-0100-smile

    Did the clubs who have won the title since the PL was formed spend?, yep every single one of them(including Leicester), the money spent by LFC is money earned.:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  13. BobbyD

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    Think your net spend in recent years (obvs because of last 2 and a half years) is comparible to ours
     
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  14. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    If Klopp had spent scattergun based on our last chunk of managers then it could be different. But at the minute he can’t be accused of buying success.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    What you mean he ACTUALLY BOUGHT WELL!

    shocking admission there
     
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  16. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    i know bobby, probably similar between all teams now days as money is there for all. i mean saints have a manager who was playing in cl ffs.

    just before we had to sell key players to be able to afford others, which is weakening team.
     
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  17. carlthejackal

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    Clubs are having to spend in order to compete. When the likes of Leicester and West Ham are spending big never mind the Chelseas and Arsenals then we have to spend big to keep up and to have a realistic challenge for the title. To be fair we have spent relatively large amounts for ages since the inception of the premiership. The biggest spenders overall have been the (red) Mancs and they have been the most successful until recently. Recently City have spent the most and it has brought them success. We have spent big with very ambitious buys like VVD and Allison at world record prices. Nothing to be ashamed of as this has brought us a very good team able to challenge for the title but yet to be shown in trophies. That is why we have to compete for the league and FA cups too. With the top (expensive) players we have bought and the money we have spent on the squad we are where we should be. It is only the mancs who have been seriously underperforming.
     
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  18. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    i would add arsenal to the underachieving as well.
     
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  19. astro

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    If we were punching our weight we'd have 30% less points then Man City.

    Pounds -> points doesn't work completely because you can still only put 11-14 players on the field in a game, so instead you can say that if we're about equal with Man City in the league then they should have a 30% better squad for other competitions.

    There's also the issue of settling. We spent big in one window, the last one. Alisson had settled instantly. Shaqiri was not a big money transfer. Fabinho and Keita have taken their time. Man City's investment has been over a longer time so they should have the benefit of more players being settled.

    We have one season where we've had a £50m+ net spend. Man City have five seasons where they've had a £100m+ net spend.

    If you look at the recent net spend (five years) then we're only 6th. Behind Everton in 5th! And with 1/3 of City's net spend.

    Anyway way you look at it expecting us to challenge City for the title and challenge for the CL and challenge for one or more other cups is an unfair expectation even with our recent spend.
     
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    Over five years your net spend is double ours.
     
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