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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    Theresa May can't win a sausage at moment.



    Traitor Cameron, which is most probably why Theresa May has an agenda that doesn't include
    what's best for the Country and the people.



    The Ideology of peace are at it again, so are the media and the corrupt cops and Justice system.



    Squaddies are going to get pissed off with all this happening to Military personnel.
     
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  2. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    So what now with Brexit?

    Trying to avoid my own WISHES these would seem to be the options:

    - A No-deal ‘hard’ Brexit - but the government have just been denied the funds to prepare for it - highly unlikely we would crash out without parliament approval
    - May’s deal - highly unlikely to get through parliament - not popular with Remainers, Brexiteers nor the DUP
    - May resigns. This is the only way she could be replaced as Tory leader, since she won the recent challenge - that would delay Brexit and give the new leader some time to regroup, but wouldn’t actually move the Brexit crisis on.
    - A general election - that would be interesting - the last thing Corbyn would want is to be given the helm of this sinking ship - and who would lead the Tories? Again, it would just delay, not resolve anything.
    - A ‘People’s Vote’ - neither of the main party leaders want this but an increasing number of MPs are siting it as the only way to break the deadlock. However, this is very unpopular with Brexiteers in particular, who fear it may result in Remain winning this time around and undermining the ‘democratic will of the people’ (although unless large numbers of former Brexiteers change sides it shouldn’t)
    - the EU get pissed off with us and expel us. Massively unlikely as they are still hoping that we turn around and remain - plus they get loads of money from us, but still possible - as in the unlikely event we actually do remain, the next Brexit vote will be only a few years away (the 2016 vote was the 3rd referendum on the subject)

    I can’t think of any other scenarios.

    What a mess - and whatever happens, the country will be more divided than ever before. If Brexit is somehow overturned then there is talk of civil unrest on a scale unheard of by current generations. We could see the same if it’s upheld. Meanwhile Cameron, the architect of this pus-filled mire, walks off into the sunset to enjoy his retirement.
     
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  3. FORZA LEEDS

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    A no deal Brexit is the only solution and the only one that delivers on the referendum result.

    It really isn’t that complicated.
     
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  4. 2 pennth

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    Absolutely fed up with the whole issue, the only good thing that has come out of Brexit is that if we did not know before we now have it confirmed that All our MP's are f-----g useless.
     
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  5. lifecheshirewhite

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    Seriously I think they should imprison MPs who refuse to uphold the vote.
     
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  6. 2 pennth

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    Agree, let's start a march on Parliament, we should be more like the French, (carn't believe I just said that)
     
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  7. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    If only
     
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  8. OLOF

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    Time for violence on the streets
     
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  9. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    If you want a Machiavellian one, the Tories call a general election........... for April 4th.

    That way it would be virtually impossible to avoid leaving the EU with a no deal brexit.
     
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  10. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    I believe you.

    Though surely hanging, drawing and quartering would be even better?
     
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  11. bcfcredandwhite

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    Without stating personal opinion, it’s important to highlight that a referendum result is NOT binding under British constitutional law. It’s purely advisory - like any poll.
     
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  12. Ringo Lion

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    What this whole shambles has taught me is that every mainstream political party are in it for themselves and not the people and none of them will ever get my vote in future elections, so any independant or local nutjob will get my vote from now on, if there isn't one I won't be voting simple as.
     
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  13. 2 pennth

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    Update on above.
    Just e-mailed my MP to inform him how much damage MP's are doing to our so called democracy due to their childish behaviour, and warned him of the potential riots in the streets.<steam>
     
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  14. Ringo Lion

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    Shouldn't had done that 2 Pennth, thats tantamount to abusing a Member of Parliament, expect your facebook profile and Paypal account to be blocked forthwith<cheers>
     
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  15. 2 pennth

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    Ha Ha they carn't get at me I have neither. Anyway give abuse where it's due that's my democratic right. (Oh sh-t just realised I don't have any democratic rights anymore)
     
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  16. Whitejock

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    That'll be you on the terrorist list, then! Meant as a joke, but be prepared .... :emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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    They’ve got heck of a lot to get to before they get to me.<monster><monster>:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  18. lifecheshirewhite

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    Like remoan say,nothings off the table <whistle>
     
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  19. lifecheshirewhite

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    The majority voted for it,that in itself is law enough,anyone trying to stop it should be made to resign or sacked.
     
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  20. Whitejock

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    LOL. Laws can be repealed - but they've got to be laws first. And this isn't a law, no matter what your personal feelings are.

    Have you realised that many of the voters from 2 years ago are no longer with us & that there's a new generation of voters champing at the bit? What about their rights?

    One other thing - you say a majority voted for it, but that's only a majority of the voters who voted. The actual percentage drop significantly when you consider it against the eligible voting population. Many of those who didn't vote chose not to as they felt uninformed. And who could blame them? More information has now come to light and they might appreciate another chance to vote now that they have a greater understanding of the current mess. Add those and the 'new' voters, and there's a sizeable part of the population you are depriving of their rights because of your blinkered dogma.
     
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