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Match Day Thread AFC Bournemouth v Watford

Discussion in 'Watford' started by oldfrenchhorn, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member
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    Jürgen Klopp says in his comments after the Liverpool v City game, that Vincent Kompany should have been sent off, and how it was a really bad decision from the referee, Anthony Taylor.
    This sounds very similar to comments we hear or read about after many games. Is there a difference between a manager at a big club saying such things, and a player from a not so big club voicing his opinion?
     
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  2. superhorns

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    Questioning a referee's courage is a step further than simply questioning a decision.

    I would much prefer our sensible and tactful coach to represent WFC than Deeney who is carefully culturing his 'fresh approach to punditry' image.
     
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    You cannot eradicate the human element from sport - mistakes happen. For most of our footballing history players and managers have accepted that the referees word is final, but apparently the current generation of overpaid prima donnas, with their over hyped media exposure, do not accept that. Jürgen Klopp would not criticize one of his own players in public, so why should he feel he can criticize a referees performance ? The ref. cannot, in turn, criticize either players or managers after matches, nor does he have the media exposure for such a thing. We expect these people to run around the field with overpaid millionaires, exposed to abuse from all fronts, for a pittance of what the people around them are earning - yet, without them there could be no professional football.
     
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    Excellent post,

    the football world should look with envy at the discipline fully accepted in the rugby world.
     
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    The main difference in the rugby World is that they use VAR thereby avoiding errors.
     
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    but they have always quickly stamped on any on field dissent, also showing more respect for opponents.
     
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    Yes, that's true, I just hope that when VAR is used from next season, it is more accurate at decision making than that fiasco in Russia last Summer.
     
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    I just watched it this morning.. He certainly enjoys saying things like he sees them... I think though as he says it without provocation he will probably get away with it...

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    And decisions accepted but I can see there still being lots of debate and as you say it wasn't exactly clear cut at times when used in the World Cup.
     
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    Yes that would be good, despite the refs ability to yellow card dissent one still sees a lot of chat and petulance on the field which I would rather not see.
     
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  11. I sometimes find the attitude of some rugby fans a bit tiresome as everytime there is criticism of their game the kneejerk response is "well we are better than football".
    However, respect for the ref is one area they have got absolutely right. In football I just don't think there is the political will to address it properly. Players used to get sent off for swearing - you don't see that now - and they had the ten yard back chat rule but soon shelved it. Still, you can't take your shirt off if you score so that's ok <doh>
     
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    Refereeing decisions, by the letter of the law, can't be questioned: i.e. =dissent, sanctioned by a yellow card. Post match the players are asked questions by the media and they then, imho, required to get their facts right or risk "bringing the game into disrepute". Referees are human but all too infrequently brought to task for poor decision making let alone any abject failure to implement the laws. Referees, thus far, make on the spot decisions (all change with VAR) so should not be criticised by players, coaches, etc., (we are allowed to bay to our hearts content, of course).
    There's plenty of time for someone to thrust a laptop under the nose of a player and say "y'know, the ref got that right..."
    However I contend that the FA, EPL, whoever, want their cake and to eat it. They want the Deeney's, the Austin's etc to say their piece... And then get all hoighty toighty when they shoot from the lip. The hypocrisy of the blazers really pees me off.
     
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    Referees all to frequently lack the courage to implement the law, be it a proper ten yards; a sanction, whatever - and all too frequent big team bias. Somehow muff get away with it every time. I am unconvinced by our penalty shout at the end but if it been a defender in green I reckon it would have been given: past evidence suggests that much.
     
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