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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Supposedly around £140k-£150k. He apparently wants closer to Harry’s £200k, which is probably fair seeing as he’s our best player and someone who we wouldn’t be able to replace.

    But I think it also depends on what we do this season. I said it at the start of the season and my mind hasn’t changed, this is the season where we have to win something. It’s why I was so disappointed that we failed to strengthen in the summer. I look at Liverpool with so much envy at the moment because that should/ could be us. We were similar to them in that just one or two positions needed strengthening, they strengthened theirs (GK and CB), yet we didn’t strengthen ours and the table is showing.

    We’ve had the majority of this squad for about 4 or so years now. Players (and possibly manager) won’t always settle being the bridesmaids for much longer. We’ve already lost Walker for that exact reason, it’s likely Toby will be next and with each passing month and no contract news, I’m starting to worry about Eriksen as well.
     
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  2. Blue and White

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    It was a lot easier for them to solve their problem. They were conceding too many goals so needed to strengthen their defence. 2 years ago we had the best defence and the best attack and still that wasn't enough.
    It's all very well saying we didn't strengthen but like is being mentioned on the ''Rival '' thread. We are having a great season by normal season standards.
     
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  3. Spurlock

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    Well we have already failed him at the first hurdle then...he deserves to be up their with our best paid players, since he is one of our best...it's pathetic of Levy to be baulking at such an early stage of talks

    Ohh I forgot we've got a stadium to pay for

    Seen it all before...sell Eriksen ..get someone for half the price with potential to be the next Eriksen in 2023...and off we go...living under the ENIC blueprint of our club on the pitch.

    All the levy lovers will say 'well he wouldn't sign a contract' with no reflection on Levy Hotspur.

    Anyway let's see ..miracles happen
     
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  4. BobbyD

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    Yup. Ideally you boys never strengthen and get a 60m plus signing. Likewise hopefully you never buy any 40m or below signings either as theres no guarantee they will be decent.

    That will do me just nicely <whistle>
     
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  5. The RDBD

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    Kane has put in 200K/week season performances for nigh on 5 seasons.
    Eriksen IMHO has not for one season (akin to Hazard at Chelsky) .
    Same for Toby.

    I contend that if anyone has rights to get closer to Kanes' wages than
    the squad average, it is Son.
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    A great season doesn't mean it can't be bettered, B&W. We could be having an even better season had we sorted out our central midfield. We've had great seasons for the past three years, finishing 3rd, 2nd and 3rd but as I've said, eventually that won't be enough for some players. Just as it wasn't for Walker, just as it's looking like for Toby and just as it may look like for Eriksen.

    If we continue to lose key players, these "great seasons" will be a thing of the past.
     
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  7. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Reportedly the very same deal as Dele
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Disagree, I think Eriksen's put in performances on a par with Kane.

    I love Sonny but he hasn't been as consistent as Eriksen, he has fantastic spells in a season just like he's experiencing one now but he also suffers dips. Eriksen rarely suffers a dip, he'll have one or two off games but that's about it. Eriksen is the cog that makes Spurs tick, without him, we're nowhere near as effective.
     
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    Well we have already failed him at the first hurdle then...he deserves to be up their with our best paid players, since he is one of our best...it's pathetic of Levy to be baulking at such an early stage of talks

    Ohh I forgot we've got a stadium to pay for

    Seen it all before...sell Eriksen ..get someone for half the price with potential to be the next Eriksen in 2023...and off we go...living under the ENIC blueprint of our club on the pitch.

    All the levy lovers will say 'well he wouldn't sign a contract' with no reflection on Levy Hotspur.

    Anyway let's see ..miracles happen
     
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  10. remembercolinlee

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    Disagree re Walker.
    He demanded to leave when we were 6 weeks from the end of the season...our last season at WHL.. when we were in the fa cup semi final and had a chance (all be it a slight one) of catching chelsea.
    He left cos he had been tapped up...and cos he was a greedy back stabbing ****.
    If he had said he wanted to leave after the season had ended I would not be dismissive of him but only a **** would do it while we were still in a chase.
     
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    He should be on the same deal as Kane...he's more productive for us than Alli through the course of a season...as good as Alli is...we don't miss him like we miss Eriksen
     
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  12. The RDBD

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    Let's go to the stats then.
    Wanna do a like for like on Hazard 2014-15 vs Eriksen 2015-16 ??
    Or more appropriately : Hazard vs Eriksen 2016-17 ??
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    The stadium does make it difficult but it doesn't make it impossible to sign players.

    I'm still very much in the pro-Levy camp, I can't deny. I think no other chairman in the Prem has managed to do what he's done unless they've been backed by a Russian Oligarch or Oil Sheikh. That said, he's in a precarious situation now where a lot of the hard work he (and Poch) have put in, could be so close to coming undone.

    Levy finally nailed it with Poch, he found the perfect manager. In this time they've built the best Spurs side we've seen in the Prem but things don't last forever, this squad isn't just gonna be turning up every season happy being the nearly men, eventually they will want out whether we like that or not as they'll look for the chance of joining a side more prepared for a title challenge/ trophy win.

    Somehow, Levy's gotta pull a rabbit out of the hat and strengthen the side to help us go to that 'next level', we've been stuck on "nearly perfect" for too long now and that won't remain forever. I appreciate it ain't easy but if we're to become the side we all want us to be, along with ensuring we keep our best talent, we've got to match the level of ambition of our rivals to ensure our players feel there's no better place to be.
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I'm not sure what comparing stuff with Hazard will achieve.

    The notion is that you think Son is more deserving of a salary closer to Kane's, I disagree and say Eriksen is more deserving of such seeing as he's best player.

    I don't think you'll find many fans who'll agree with the notion that Son is deserving of a better salary than Eriksen.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    He left because City are better than us, mate.

    Yes he's a snake prick for wanting out right before the semi-final and he's also a **** for saying he's "Tottenham til I die" on Dele's video only to **** off six months later but ultimately he knew at City he'd have a better chance of winning things. His move has been justified, first season with City he picked up a Premier League winners medal plus the League Cup. Second season they're in the mix for four trophies, as are we but realistically we know City's chances are better than ours.
     
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    Nope.

    The notion is that Eriksen does not deserve 200K/week, because
    he has not put in season-long MF performances akin to what Hazard
    did in 2014-15 and 2016-17 (ie helped his club win the PL each time) .

    Now, if Eriksens' current wage is X, and I am saying X = 200K is not
    happening, what value of X do you think Eriksen deserves ...
     
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    And wages , not a dig , we are paupers compared to you . I just think your chairman cant / wont match the best .

    IMHO the latter is to be applauded , but players are , for the most part these days , mercenary .
     
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  18. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Then by that logic neither does Kane deserve to be on £200k seeing has he hasn't won us a Premier League title or trophy of any sort.

    Kane rightfully earns £200k because he's one of the best strikers in world football right now and that's roughly the going rate for an elite striker.
    Eriksen also deserves to earn £200k or near too it because he's one of the best midfielders in world football right now.
     
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  19. Spurlock

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    I appreciate what Levy has done for us off the pitch....I've been saying it all year...we are at a crossroads though in the development of this team.

    Joe Lewis has expendable cash for paintings costing 90 mill...he's got our club over a barrel and we are made to feel bad if we question ENIC...because once we were ****

    Say what you want about Russian oligarch types...they buy the paintings and the players. I'm sick of ENIC's blueprint.

    How many trophies under ENIC?...don't anyone tell me ENIC give too many ****s about football success.

    They are very comfortable with where we are... I'm not an accountant I'm a football fan and I refuse to be told that we owe everything to ENIC because of the stadium for the next decade. I can't remember a season that wasn't a transition for us for some reason or another and we always buy it.

    ENIC need to stick that 9 figure price on us and let someone who wants to parade a glorious team take over. You won't get no Arthur Daly's, Alan Sugars and Scholars buying us...we are still living in fear of that ffs...and no one pays north of a billion to piss it up the wall.
     
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    The fact Walker keeps spinning increasingly ludicrous versions of events to try and justify the move, for example him saying he was pissed off with constantly being rotated out of the side when he'd played 90 minutes in ten of the twelve games before the FA Cup semi, say he didn't join The Sheikh Mansour Team because he saw them as winners (especially as we finished eight points ahead of them that season) but because he's a greedy prick
     
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