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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Again, I blame selfish politicians in both parties who vehemently disagree with their leadership but don't have the balls to do anything about it, hence the extremes of the party are getting away with it. The centre ground is tumbleweed at present...
The thing that makes me laugh at some, is that they are very quick to weaponise homeless people for political argument but know FA about them or care about them. They are as hypocritical as those Anti-capitalists that wear designer clothes. Muppets the lot of them.
 
not unnaturally pre occupied stroller
if 300000 that are known about are able to find housing then maybe a little bit more can be done to find housing for the ones that are already there
shamefull that any govt lets this happen
its happening under the labour govt here now
it will happen when the tories get back in here
the refugee quota has been lifted here and they will all be found somewhere to live
no western country should have people living in cars etc

as for being an immigrant myself

i applied to come
i had full medical checks including extra ones because i had tattoos
i had full police checks
i was not entitled to the dole etc for two years from the day i arrived
i would not be allowed in had i been or potentially been a burden on nz and its services

dont see anything wrong with that

the people arriving by boat or in the backs of lorries from france should be put on the next train to france
if they knew they would be returned within the hour they would stop trying to get in
come on strolls it took ages to type all that with one finger
 
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Even if I accept that stat (where's the corroboration?) it then begs the question, what happened between 2004 and 2010? We know what has happened since that date.

Do you really think that this homelessness situation would be allowed to continue under a Corbyn government?

It's everything else that comes with Corbyn that's the problem, that 'Magic Money Tree' solves all our problems till we're bankrupt (based on his last election promises)...
 
It's everything else that comes with Corbyn that's the problem, that 'Magic Money Tree' solves all our problems till we're bankrupt (based on his last election promises)...

Yeah well austerity worked well didn't it? A bit of big state tax and spend is overdue if you ask me. Redistribution.
 
Yeah well austerity worked well didn't it? A bit of big state tax and spend is overdue if you ask me. Redistribution.

I wouldn't have a problem with Labour if they actually revealed their costings as viable, they told us everything in their manifesto was costed but wouldn't reveal how much, then Corbyn started making an expensive additional promise almost daily throughout the run-up. Hence the 'Magic Money Tree' jibe.

I agree austerity was sh*t and Cameron should have made the banks and bankers pay for it, more proof virtually all politicians are basically c*nts...
 
Even if I accept that stat (where's the corroboration?) it then begs the question, what happened between 2004 and 2010? We know what has happened since that date.

Do you really think that this homelessness situation would be allowed to continue under a Corbyn government?

No, we'd all be ****ing homeless!
 
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Yeah well austerity worked well didn't it? A bit of big state tax and spend is overdue if you ask me. Redistribution.

I agree this much - that those sleeping on the streets should be offered a roof over their heads during winter. It's not enough to give them shelter over Christmas and then leave them over colder months to come. As Sooper has said, not all would accept, but they should be given the option and the opportunity taken to offer advice on drugs and alcohol treatment, mental health issues, employment prospects - and personal finances.

I heard a call-in chat on LBC recently on food banks. One bloke rang in to say he worked at a food bank. He said that a few who came in were spongers, buy most were genuine. He was honest about the fact that their poor predicament could have been prevented by sound management of their personal finances, but they didn't have the necessary skills. Finance gets ever more complicated. There must be a case for teaching basics at school which would surely lead to more cautious, worldly individuals.
 
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Probably fine. She can’t be as thick as the definitely not racist right wing media would have you believe given her education.

She may be academic, but she's utterly gaff prone and strikes me as lazy (not in control of the police finance figures in that Ferrari interview) and unworldy (complaining about certain skilled police drivers nudging mobile robbing thugs off their mopeds, which has been a huge success in reducing those crimes that the public are utterly sick of )
 
She may be academic, but she's utterly gaff prone and strikes me as lazy (not in control of the police finance figures in that Ferrari interview) and unworldy (complaining about certain skilled police drivers nudging mobile robbing thugs off their mopeds, which has been a huge success in reducing those crimes that the public are utterly sick of )

She could be a reincarnation of Churchill and she’d be portrayed as some sort of pantomime village idiot in our press. I really don’t buy it.
 
Did you hear the Ferrari interview?

Yes I recall it. It wasn’t great. But I’d rather she was good at the less glamorous elements of the role (she might not be for all I know) than being a good speaker and looking snazzy, which she clearly isn’t. You could be right and she could be both lazy and stupid but if she was that useless she’d be shifted out of her post fairly quickly. I’d still trust Corbyn’s lot over May’s based on what I’ve seen our current government preside over.
 
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Yes I recall it. It wasn’t great. But I’d rather she was good at the less glamorous elements of the role (she might not be for all I know) than being a good speaker and looking snazzy, which she clearly isn’t. You could be right and she could be both lazy and stupid but if she was that useless she’d be shifted out of her post fairly quickly. I’d still trust Corbyn’s lot over May’s based on what I’ve seen our current government preside over.

Fair enough, that's your perspective. The only person in Corbyn's shadow cabinet who seems to know what he's doing is McDonnell, and personally, I wouldn't trust him. I suspect he will be next Labour leader, perhaps sooner than Jeremy may wish
 
Hmmm.... Tory MPs taking advantage of brexit?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46714984

how the hell a 14m contract be doled out to a shell company with no boats, no trading history and no actual experience.

What an absolute farce, whoever gave this out must have got a juicy back hander (similar to Boris and renting out the olympic stadium to the spammers)