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Sorry ball - Sarri sack watch

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by StanDMan, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Thing is, Pep can afford that with the Sheik's money. But Chelsea cannot afford those type early 2000s expenditures.

    More the reason for Sarri to do a Poch / Arsene than do a Judas Mo or Judas Conte..
    Least Conte won something before he went on a gripe. Sarri hasn't won anything anywhere...

    So Sarri should follow Poch and get on with the s#!t.. If Morata is not good enough get Tammy or Batsman up top.
    instead getting Gonzo Higuain isn't going to help. It is worse than letting Costa go..

    So again, Sorry is doing & saying all the wrong things....
     
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  2. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    Well what is pleasing to know and you expertly exercise is ‘you talk out of your arse’. Tammy struggles in the championship and you think he is good enough to throw in our front line? Your constant assassination of our club makes you the JUDAS.
     
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  3. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    In the words of 'Arry the Genius - You have to be a dopey to Fcuk up in Chelsea'.

    Or a Farking Judas in the case of Mo & ****e.

    Just look at Manu & how a lowly Ole is doing...

    Sarri needs to buckle his ideas and play youth instead of buying past it Gonzo et al....


    SarriOut SorryOut
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    <laugh>
     
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  5. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Were you born ******ed or have you had to work at it?
    Just curious.
    Which part of the US are you from?
    A Southern state, I take it?
    Do you drive a pick-up?
    Do you take fishing trips with your nephew-son?
     
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  6. Chelsea Pensioner

    Chelsea Pensioner Well-Known Member

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    Sarri has us in clear 4th, quite an effort in first year.
    There are cracks which are widening, and repeating poor performances but he needs to be judged at seasons end, not now.
    Hate most of the names being talked about, Higuan and Hummels especially, not impressed we offer 45 mill for Pulisic and will sell Hudson Odoi for 22mill. But is that Sarri or Marina??
    I don't like Barkley starting over RLC or Kovacic, not convinced Hazard is a striker, not crazy about Kantes' conversion, don't rate Jorghino as our creative midfield answer. But Sarri is the Manager and is getting results.
    He has the least enviable job in the PL and is holding things together better than most expected.
    Stan needs to lay off the "Judas" rubbish and not expect us to be up there with City and Liverpool in Sarris' first half season
     
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  7. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Exactly this.
    This season was always about reclaiming a CL spot and giving Sarri time to embed his philosophy into the squad.
    We were never going to finish higher than 3rd, Liverpool and City are streets ahead of us.
    Hopefully with a CL place, and some astute signings next summer, we can challenge for the 2020 title
     
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  8. Gareth1808

    Gareth1808 Well-Known Member

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    Surprised Stan posted today, he usually doesn’t bother if we win.

    One thing I’ve noticed this season and especially today is that we need more left footed players. We don’t have any apart from the left back, looks really unbalanced.
     
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  9. Naas Blue

    Naas Blue Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Gareth. Slightly surprising as he hates days like today when we win. However sometimes he defaults to this "Judas" drivel if the win really pisses him off. He will hold on now in hope that Southampton beat us on Wednesday and he can start the "Luiz, Alonso, Cescy" bollocks again.
     
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  10. Bullet tooth Tony

    Bullet tooth Tony Well-Known Member

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    I am beginning to agree with CP about boreginho ( there you go Stan a new name for you) not being as good as we think he is. About 200 touches today and hardly any of them positive, as in creative, sideways backwards rarely shoots, and when he does hits row Z. Give me Kante and RLC anyday. Willian could not pass for a toffee and Hazard had a very poor game. Defence was better Rudiger was great and Luiz put on his passing boots for once.
     
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  11. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

    Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know if it was the set up of palace or our set up but nothing clicked for Chelsea yesterday.
    There’s still huge volumes of work to be done by Sarri. Interestingly though, in one of his recent press conferences, he stated he had no control over the hazard deal and contract. This could mean that he will have no say in who comes and goes. Not really sure what that means for him being there and the type of football we will play. That remains to be seen.
     
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  12. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Well I would imagine he gets asked what players he wants the club to go for, even if he has no further involvement in the transfer process.
    It would be beyond ******ed to bring in a manager whose style is completely different to the previous 2 managers and give him zero say on what players are added to the squad.
    Signing players that he thinks will suit his tactics is paramount for any manager, surely.
     
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  13. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Well.............yes. But that's what Conte, Jose and all thought, but none got who they wanted, only who Management decided to buy.
     
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  14. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    You sure about that?
    Am almost certain Costa and Fabregas were Mourinho picks, and that Kante was a Conte pick! I know they didnt get all the players they wanted, but am almost certain they at least had a say....I mean, that was the main reason Jose left the first time, because Roman forced him to sign Shevchenko, when he wanted Eto'o.
    Why would he have rejoined the club under the same conditions?
     
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  15. Chelsea Pensioner

    Chelsea Pensioner Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Abu, I've not actually panned Jorghino before, but making 200 passes, none of them positive, has been going on for weeks. He's scored none (apart from a penalty), and assisted none.
    Perhaps when FIFA award points for passes instead of Goals , we will have a gem on our hands. He does keep the play flowing, but he is hamstrung by an unbalanced trio.
    I don't lay all the blame for our lack of penetration on him, but on the poor way our midfield is set up. Surely when compared to our competitors, we are lacking power, flair and drive in our midfield. RLC potentially has all those qualities, but rarely plays (know he was injured). Barkley, on the other hand has none of those qualities but continues to be chosen before RLC. Barkley by comparison is all kick ,bollock, scramble, give the ball away, all piss and wind. Luiz, by a large margin is the best creative player we have. He sees , he passes, he creates. That's what the midfield should be doing. Imagine if we had both !!!!!
    Instead of trying to reproduce Napoli Mark 11, Sarri should at least be recognising by now he is misusing our quality players. As I said before, he is building the team around the wrong players. Jorghino is NOT the core player he was in Napoli, and shows little sign of ever being so. Sarri is ignoring the best DM in the world, trying to make Hazard a striker because we have none, and looks like he's running out of ideas and excuses.
    He needs to take a step back ,re look at what he's got ,and better use the talent he has, still in his preferred Sarri Ball way. Moses surely could play a part, Hudson Odoi for sure, recall Tammy, but for Christs sake try something apart from buying Higuan, et al.
    Come the summer, he will need to have showed a way forward, which he has already hinted at. January signings of the type being suggested are "Giroud" solutions. Wait for, and pay for the best.
     
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  16. Chelsea Pensioner

    Chelsea Pensioner Well-Known Member

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    Not sure, but whoever chose Costa , Fabregas and Kante knew their stuff !!.
    Conte definitely whinged loudly about not getting the players he wanted, , instead he got Barkley, Drinkwater etc.
    Anyway you are 100% right manager should be top of the list when deciding who comes and goes.

    By the way, Happy New Year to you and yours, and all the other posters who make life more interesting.
     
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  17. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    You too mate. <hug>
     
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  18. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    Hmm, I think he is working with what he has as opposed to what he would want. Given he has inherited vastly Contes team I think we should all be happy he is making the best of of the resources at hand. Wether he will granted what he wants remains the clubs business but as you said, why get a manager who plays a totally different Brad of football and not back him.
     
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  19. BobbyD

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    i don't mind jorginhos 200 passes without being positive as unlike before, that allows us to keep the ball and not just hoof it up the pitch which we were doing in the past (actually he's played a few forward, not too many though but off the top of my head he setup hazard to be fouled by foster at watford and he played a throughball for alonso when he setup pedro against back in september or something lol). What i have issue with jorginho is that he's pretty lightweight and slow and gets physically blow away similar to fabregas (but he's not as weak or slow). For a team that plays fairly offensively, we look weak when we get countered and him having these attributes doesnt help at all.

    p.s. i quite like hazard as the CF. think he's been doing that role really well. Stops us being imbalanced as well when he decides he wants to play as a cf, midfielder, dribble it around all day long when he should be playing it quick or hugging the left wing
     
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  20. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    This Management excuse is a total baloney..

    Managers have 100% say in who we buy.. No one is going to dump 70 mill pounds on a GK without Manager saying yes or no.

    No one in "Management" will think about Gonzo until Manager approves or asks..

    If Higuain joins that is the end. Juve would have arm twisted CFC yet again.
     
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