A lot of the stuff that gets chucked in the bin goes for incineration to generate electricity. Which as long as there are good particulate filters etc at the incineration plant, isn’t actually a bad use of household waste.
I still haven't worked out from reading this thread, how a 10p carrier bag has less likelihood of ending up in the ocean that a 5p one?
Incinerators are well gone in the North now mate, lots of bins but they hoya the lot into the same truck.. I laugh at these politicians and their flummery, get into the real world and see what the ****ers like..
The presumtion is that there will be less bags if people are charged more for them. But I agree with you that this comes down more to manufacturers than consumers. You probably know that I run a small health food business. I use a product called PLA which is a plant based cellulose in my packaging. It looks like the clear plastic that you find on thousands of food products, but it’s degrades back into plant matter in about 6 weeks. If I can do it, then I expect the big players to do it tbh.
You are probably doing it right, the big boys look after themselves and the shareholders (cash in the bank for them).. People don't give a **** until there is a disaster or something gains massive media coverage then they all come out of their inner bank vaults, flap like **** and start this green spiel bullshit..
From your first sentence, and as you know the tax on carrier bags, whether 5p or 10p is the biggest load of bolloxs ever. Before the levy, supermarkets used to pallet in carrier bags to each store, literally thousands of the fookers to each consumer. They were initially done as a free incentive at a cost to the SUPERMARKET out of their profits. Once the levy came in, it was promised that the money would go to charity. But there is one massive hole in all this. Supermarkets used to have to pay thousands to supply those bags, that would be in their manufacture, then put on pallets and delivered by lorries, then storage in warehouse, before the final cost of the manpower to get them on the shop floor and passed on to the customer. Now the supermarkets using Gove's very own terminology have saved 15 MILLION bags from all that distribution. So what are the supermarkets giving back out of all this, let me think now...taking a cost for supplying the bag, saving them thousands while also making money off the back of the levy for what used to be FREE bags. The government went in and penalised the consumer, but did nothing to the parties that partied this monstrosity of plastic. And the government continue to penalise the consumer, while supermarkets continue to use plastics for a variety of other goods, completely ignored by weasels such as Gove. Why? Because supermarkets are allowed to deduct 'reasonable costs'
Interesting also to note, that as soon as environmentalists raised the issues more recently that more needed to be done, the UK government are straight in there doubling taxes, and they wonder why the consumer will not take them seriously. Anyway next up a cap on calories, but the government are being even clever here. They know consumers and manufacturers etc will not accept it, so what do you think the governments next move will be....you got it, taxation on calories instead!
Brb if you really want a couple of free bags I can send you some in the post mate, got dozens in the boot.
The UK is slacking mate, our government choose to make money from the environment, while Germany, France and Italy banned them, so as i said earlier, it's ok to pay to pollute the environment
President Mackerel of France has put on a massive petrol tax to save the World . Don't worry about plastic bags .
I use the plastic bags to clear up the dogs’ **** in the back garden so I don’t mind paying for them. The dogs **** a lot so we need lots of bags.
I won't be happy with that. I pay so much duty on ***s and booze that if they put an additional tax on food I may have to give up eating.
