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  1. Pipe4Life

    Pipe4Life Active Member

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    starting salary for infantry is something like 15k these days for the military in infantry i think. I admire the lads whio do it but i wouldn't get out of bed for that let alone risk death in a sweltering dust patch full of explosives. I've been to a few TA officers balls and i admire the the military way but for 15k? no chance.
     
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  2. Jock McMagpie

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    ^^this. Far underpaid are the military. You get fud's that go offshore to find some ****ing oil for 60k a year basically doing **** all when they are there. Then you get these guys going to Afghanistan putting there life on the line for 15k. Should be the other way around!!
     
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  3. Pipe4Life

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    not only that but the guy on the rig will be loaded with the best apparal that money can buy and the lads on the front line have to fight tooth and nail for the basic equipment to fight to the death with. sad fact is a lot of them are maimed and come back and struggle to get the financial help they need. if a guy on a rig was in an accident he'd be sueing his gaffers for hundreds of thousands.
     
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  4. Jock McMagpie

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    My mates dad died in the piper alpha disaster. Very very sad,however, his mum got a £1million payout as did all the deceaseds families I believe. The militarys families get jack ****!!
     
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  5. Pipe4Life

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    a million quid is scant consolation really but it helps soften the blow a bit. the lads on the rig go out there with nowehere near the risk hanging over their heads as the boys in the army. Its backwards.
     
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    A dunno,my dad is a total **** who ****ed off when I was weeks old,a would rather have the money!!! <laugh>
     
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  7. I have all respect for grieving families, but come on... 1 million quid?

    That's a bit much don't you think?
     
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    Not really if you consider loss of earnings that would have been incurred let alone compensation for the grief caused!
     
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  9. Jock McMagpie

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    Piper Alpha was a really really bad disaster. It must have hit the families hard!!!
     
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  10. Pipe4Life

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    I dunno like. unlike Jockmagpie i'm incredibly fond of my old man. if he died and i had a million quid which i could bring him back to life with i wouldn't think twice about it. (not in a zombie reannimation 'weekend at bernies' kind of way obviously)
     
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  11. I agree, but a million quid wouldn't help ease the pain of a relative dieing. 100 million wouldn't.

    I think the families should get enough money to live a good life in luxury, but a million quid just seems like a little bit much to me, that's all.

    Sorry.
     
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    A million quid ain't going to keep you in luxury for long. But the families do deserve the payment. Those guys died because the company who owned Piper Alpha ****ed up and the place wasn't safe, because of that people died, the families deserve all they can get.
     
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    Tash. Its been estimated that if you won less than £3.2 million on the lottery at a young age (30-ish) then, even living semi-frugally, you would still have to work to live a comfortable life and still have enough for an expanding family (i.e. wife and kids) as well as retirement until death.

    On that understanding, a £1 million is nothing to a family that will have lost the main income provider for a family.
     
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  14. Pipe4Life

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    This.

    A million quid doesn't go as far as you think these days. if i won a million quid on the lotto i'd have to make a decision on whether i was going to risk it investing or continue working. after you've bought yourself a nice house and a couple of cars, treated your family and friend you'd not be left with that much out of it.
     
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    It's not really backwards, not giving families that much compensation if someone gets killed. People sign up with that being a possibility and an army knows it to they would lose so much money paying all families out. I mean it's like trying to get life insurance when you are terminally ill. The world runs on money, people join the army for money.

    I met someone on holiday, an old guy he was on the first british nuclear sub, it apparently exploded or something and now this guy got quite a lot of money per annum from the state. I think it was £30,000 not sure, but he just went on holidays all the time, at the time I thought that was a good life, but now that I grown up, was a child at the time, he did have a lot of health problems. Like respiratory problems and problems with mobility (needed a walking stick).
     
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  16. Jock McMagpie

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    My cousin,a genius in accountancy/"money matter" actually done a study into this very matter. If you won 1mill in your 30's you couldn't live confortably until the average life expectancy.
     
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    I can't remember the exact figure, but my next of kin gets a five or six figure payout if I die from a work related injury.

    I work in a betting shop!
     
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  18. Privet

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    Aye, it would be like 18-20k a year or something, and that's without buying a house, car etc.
     
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    That'd have to be some paper cut from a betting slip!
     
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  20. Jock McMagpie

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    Maked raiders,its a dangerous job!!! lol
     
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