No thry are not cos that's the job of every midfielder. Defensive midfielder is not an actual role it's a description for a journeyman player are a crab who never passes forward. You can play deeper and be a playmaker. You can play in a pair and one goes and the other stays but they can swap You can do lots of things as a midfielder but you don't just defend. Defending is less than half lfc game. Defending can be about 30% of city's game Same thing with jorginho at city. Sarri moves Kante forward so his deeplying playmaker can be on ball. Only **** teams who can't play football have dms
#harsh I think dyche has folded under pressure, they were always negative in mindset but last year they just got a lot of goals. This year thry can't defend so are going dirty
I should rephrase - their main role is to provide protection. And DM is a role, not a position. As you say, Kante is a DM but he plays further upfield than Jorginho. Same with Alonso and Mash. It’s not a coincidence that we’ve seen better performances out of Hendo and Gini when they play alongside Fabinho (small sample size). Because a quality DM allows others to flourish. Fabinho is a top class footballer - both defensively and offensively. But his main role is to provide stability and protection to the back 4.
And yes, teams like Barca City Loool spend more time on the ball attacking than defending. But that’s why you need a quality DM because these teams have more players going forward, which means DM has a lot of space to cover in case we lose the ball. Hence why positioning and intelligence is crucial.
no. there's no such thing as just a dm in proper football. there's midfielder who play deep and then there's journeyman hacks to crab sideways and kick people who got a name made up for them so they look more acceptable.
its a perfectly standard term for players who sit deepest in a MF & act as a screen for the defence despite your linguistic gymnastics.
That's why you deserved Scott Parker and sidwell... drinkwater.. you lot have a long history of buying journeyman in the name of getting in a reliable dm.
other than the fact that it doesn't actually exist. ala old bob paisley.. im sure he'd just laugh at the very concept. all midfielders defend. all midfielders contribute to the attack. this is the same argument as an "attacking" midfielder. all that means is some **** decides he doesnt need to defend aka Pogba at times. if you watch David Silva or de bruyne they are not 10/15 yards ahead of ball but are on the ball or available for next pass always. they also track back and defned.... and guess what do did pogba for france. Midfield is the place to be to influence the game, be that with or without the ball. its not the place to be to play safe and kick people. if people just look back at our own club we could name players going right back into the dim and distant past all the way to the near past where midfielders did both. you could call souness or McMahon a dm I suppose... but itd be an insult. same for Alonso or even mascherano.
if you can tell.me Scott Parker and Steve sidwell are not no 6 style players ok... fair enough.. but I'll just be telling you you are wrong. Danny drink water sat in front of Leicester cbs in their title winning season. so clearly either Chelsea are just idiots at transfers OR you've proved my point that there should be no such then as a dm. which is it?
Sidwell and scotty were both cms at charlton and reading respectively. Plus we had claude makele and as much as jose/claudio is a master of the 9-0-1 formation, im not sure he got them in witj the mind of playing both claude and them on top of cbs. Yes, chelsea are idiots. Its as if we have our own little Michael edwards (one for you)
Sidwell always struck me as one of those transfers Chelsea made under Mourinho which were more about stopping other teams having them rather than Chelsea really wanting them.
What about mascerano, I'd put him as a DM and kante. Surely a defensive midfielder is there to break up play and help the back four out as his primary responsibility, an attacking midfielder is there to support the attack, I've got a feeling the clue might be in the name. Obviously you would hope your midfield could do a bit of everything, but that is expected of all positions now. You want your forwards to help out in defence, and certainly your full backs to be able to join the attack.
