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Transfer Rumours Poch to United

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    :emoticon-0137-clapp well put
     
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  2. Blue and White

    Blue and White Well-Known Member

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    What's with your memory?
    Read some of the reactions.
    Poch is right; We do need to trust him.Even on this forum , there are still many who criticize him for not buying last summer.
    A more interesting example would be Sissoko
     
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  4. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    I will have alot more faith once he has the balls to say he's staying...instead of hedging his bets...you can't really blame anyone who has raised an eyebrow over this. This shouldn't be a test of OUR faith in him.

    I'll always support the badge
     
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  5. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

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    I think his comments have said that he is staying. He said that he will leave when Daniel wants him to.
    You can get evens on him being our manager for the first game next season, that is the best bet I have ever seen. It is going to pay for my season ticket for the next four years.
     
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  6. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Hope so Dee...I'm not being an idiot about it...I'm actually deeply concerned about our club regressing whilst improving rivals...that's a no no at all costs for me and to have total blind faith in anyone in football is naive.
     
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  7. Blue and White

    Blue and White Well-Known Member

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    You recall Gazza being received positively.
    Read the comments from fans when he was signed; I wouldn't call them positive.
    ''Can we sign someone who is actually going to play?''
    ''What a way to excite the fans Mr Levy...''
    ''Honestly one of the worst keepers I have ever seen and I once played in a team where our keeper wore marigolds for gloves.''
    ''Exactly the big signing we were after. A player like that has to be worth at least 10 points a season''
    ''Spurs announce new transfer ........ Gazzaniga. Where are the players we actually need not ones Poch 'likes''
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    It's incredibly naive to think Poch genuinely didn't want to strengthen in the summer. He's just too nice and professional to ever slate the club for it in public like what Jose done at Utd. He wanted signings, every manager does, it aids the progression of a side.
     
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  9. Blue and White

    Blue and White Well-Known Member

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    But only players that would improve the squad and not just buy for the sake of it. ( and also not pay silly money)
     
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  10. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    I think the debate is about signing players for the future or signing those that are ready to go into the first team. Contrary to popular myth...every first team can be improved, including ours. I was one saying we need summer signings...nothing has changed...we are in 4 competitions as things stand...Poch was dropping hints about heavy rotation the other day. Levy could have helped him out...however I agree with Poch...we don't need to sign anyone for the sake of it...I'd rather we sign players ready for first team football this season as opposed to signed in this window and played in 2021.

    As if purchases in the summer would not have eased the burden for the current squad
     
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  11. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

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    I don't have blind faith either, but I think the likes of Paddy Power are guided by the press. A five k bet I think will be a winner.

    The next up is 5:1
     
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  12. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Exactly and the club failed him on that. No one on here criticised Poch for not buying anyone, the criticism was aimed at the board.

    We all know he wanted Grealish, we pissed about at the beginning of negotiations and by the time we finally met their initial asking price of £25m, Villa's new owners had told us to basically do one - and who can really blame them when we tried low-balling Villa for about 5 weeks? That deal should've been wrapped up within 48-72 hours. Grealish wanted to join and he was available for a decent fee... We not only let Poch down on that but also Grealish.

    Robbie Keane also said on a punditry job before a game that he knew Spurs were chasing four players, he didn't say who but that there shows again, the club let Poch down.

    So the idea that fans need to trust Poch for not signing anyone is somewhat incorrect, the fans trust Poch but he wanted signings, he was just let down by those at the top. Hopefully they rectify that in a couple weeks.
     
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  13. deedub93

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    You win a few, you lose a few mate, but if you pay silly money you risk losing everything. Spurs are backed by the fans, not a bunch of oil wells, never forget that. All credit to DL and Poch, that's why we are where we are now.
     
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  14. Blue and White

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    Please ! let's not go here again.

    All I am saying is I agree with Poch and trust him. Yes he makes mistakes ( in cup semi-finals ) but he is brilliant for us.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Yeah for sure but there wasn’t a need for silly money. The £25m for Grealish (would’ve been even less earlier on in the window) was good value and a player Poch wanted. I was pointing out to B&W that a) Poch wanted signings and b) there were affordable ones out there who’d strengthen the squad.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    No one’s saying they don’t trust Poch. You were saying he was criticised for not spending by people on here but it wasn’t him who was being criticised, it was the board who let him down. He wanted signings, he just didn’t get them then chose not to slate the club.
     
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  17. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    It's pretty much a given that 2 of those players were de Ligt and Martial, whose clubs said "Not for sale at any price" and they meant it. There's a reaonable chance that Mata may have been the other one....also not for sale to us....or anyone else.......unless the bid was insane.

    If the management of the club identify players that aren't available and no others, I don't make that Levy's fault. It's a collective failing. and had a fair chance of being the outcome from Day 1.

    Grealish we ****ed up.
     
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  18. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I won’t speculate on who. Papers linked us with god knows how many during the summer as they always do. The only one we knew for sure was Grealish and it was likely the easiest deal for us to have pulled off yet as you say, we ****ed up.

    It shouldn’t have been difficult for the club to have brought in one or two though. Regardless of stadium costs, Levy himself even declared there were separate budgets. I’m a big pro-Levy fan FWIW, I defend him over on the Prem board as well but there’s no denying he/ the board messed up in the summer by not backing the manager. Thankfully for them, Poch and the boys have probably exceeded expectations so far.
     
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  19. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I was going to use this quote from MP to start a thread on negative perceptions. However, it fits here because some of our number are going into meltdown if we don't make signings again this January...

    “I’m not talking about inside of the club, I talk about the perception outside, the people outside. We’re so fragile. We’re still not solid enough as a club to support some good and some bad [periods] because the perception of the people can affect the club.

    “I think we’re changing a lot and we’re going to change, if we have time to do that. But our self-belief is still so fragile.

    “We’re doing fantastically but if we don’t sign in January people say we’re going to struggle. It’s all negative, rather than saying, ‘If Tottenham don’t sign anyone it’s because they believe that they’re going to, or that they have the tools to, perform well and maybe challenge for the title.


    We could definitely do with some quality in the middle of the park, but if MP decides that what we want isn't available, are we going to re-do the 'Levy failed Poch' thing, when MP is already prepared for a no purchases window? The summer wasn't what anyone wanted but let's not play the media's game.
     
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  20. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Wow...Poch will look like a right **** if he leaves us
     
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