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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    To some extent, but the past places a burden on the manager at all clubs. Clough casts a long shadow at Derby and Forest - with little prospect of the manager ever being able to emulate him.
    At Utd, the manager has additional pressures such as the handling the huge media and fan interest from all around the world and the imposing size of the club with the need to cope with the delegation of many tasks to others which managers might expect to do themselves at other clubs. It's a different job from most others even without the expectation of winning the major trophies.
    Not every manager who has been a success elsewhere is suited to this job. Mourinho came with the right CV and failed; so did van Gaal.
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

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    I don't think that Mourinho or van Gaal had the right mentality to be Utd manager, which was the same issue that Moyes had.
    It's tough for any manager to cast off the shadow of Ferguson, especially when he's glowering from the stands.
    It's impossible when your football is comparable to Allardyce or Pulis though, especially with the squad available.

    The Ex-Special One doesn't even have time or finances as an excuse.
    This squad is his. If he didn't want the current players, then should have replaced them.
     
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  3. The RDBD

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    The bottom line is that the Glazer debt burden must be serviced.
    For now, that means CL participation every season, whoever the
    manager is. As I said on the PL board, events of the past week
    have threatened that big-time for next season, and the club is taking
    no chances on that becoming certainty.
     
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  4. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Don’t lie, you wanna turn this into a threesome!

    Still waiting for you to create a poster of the year thread, mate. Let’s see how many votes you get <whistle> <laugh>
     
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  5. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Genuinely not worried about Poch going to Utd.

    I quit betting about 18 months ago but if I were to bet now, when Poch does leave us, I’d have money on it being to PSG or Real. He’s got love for PSG while Real is... well, Real. Regardless of how they bin off managers it’s still many’s dream job.
     
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  6. The Changing Man

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    Oh yes please - Here is someone making the suggestions made in jest on this very thread, but as this is Paul Ince and he doesn't have a sense of humour then I can only assume that he actually believes what he is saying
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

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    Interesting that he didn't nominate himself for similar reasons...
     
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  8. D.G.C.

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    Eric Cantona has been named as a possibility but I cannot see success coming with him as a coach. It's hard to remember any ex players for clubs that went onto be good coaches for their clubs. Sniffer Clark failed at Leeds for instance. Glen Hoddle wasn't great for us to name but two.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Johan Cruyff's the example that everyone should be measured by (and not certain other ex-Barca players who later managed the team...)
     
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    1. Kenny Dalglish - Liverpool
    2. Pep Guardiola - Barca
    3. Franz Beckenbauer - Bayern Munich
    4. Zidane - Real

    Just a few examples... I could go on.
     
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  11. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Granted but it's hard to see who from Utd's past could match the 4 you mentioned. Ardiles didn't cut it for us for example.
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    Laurent Blanc could have a chance because, while people might write off his three titles with PSG because of the money they have compared to the rest of Ligue 1, he guided Bordeaux to the title several years before PSG hired him

    Of course plenty of their fans are dismissing the idea on Twitter because he only played for them for a season (actually two, but it's not like these people were alive back then...) or, just as likely, because he isn't A Big Name Manager™ so isn't worthy of the role
     
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  14. The Changing Man

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    Leicester I assume didn't like the idea of a 2 legged semi final adding to their January work load those were awful penalties

    And well done to Burton on reaching the semi finals
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Sterling's miss was priceless. I know that he is beyond criticism but that was the ****test penalty since Zaza and it was obviously going to be **** as soon as he put the ball on the spot. Give him a chance and time to think about it and he's way beyond useless....
     
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  16. bigsmithy9

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    Time to tell Sir Fergie to buzz off and get back to his allotment!
     
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  17. D.G.C.

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    Ok, so according to the BBC gossip column Poch wants to be considered for the Utd job, I don't know how much truth there is in that but if he wants to go then ok, cheerio and good luck because he'll need it. It also states Eddie Howe is favourite to take us if Poch goes, in a pig's ear I hope. We need a BIG name to take the job.
     
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  18. yossarian

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    Bob Paisley too
     
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  19. Spurf

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    What do you call a man with a plank of wood on his head?

    Edward


    What do you call a man with 3 planks of wood on his head?

    Edward Woodward

    Man U have more planks than any other PL team <laugh>
     
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  20. The RDBD

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    Or : 1 x Ed Woodward = 3 x 4" x 2" .
     
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