Off Topic Politics Thread

Utter bollocks, Imps:

https://www.indy100.com/article/nhs-350m-brexit-remain-leave-vote-referendum-eu-europe-7904661

Before you do it I know (1) you won't read it and (2) it's a poll so you'll reject it (because facts are inconvenient to Brexiters) but your repeated claim that no-one believed the "£350M for the NHS" message is proven to be tripe.

Facts matter. Not to you, clearly, but to some of us.

Vin

 

He said "rational".

 

My mum believed it and was tempted to vote leave because of it so I have first hand evidence that it influenced voters...

 

you do realise that Imps is just waiting for his role in Hannibal Lecter V?

 

everyone's mum believed it!

 

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‘Believed’ - past tense.

 

It’s a ****show Imps. Govt talking about putting troops on the streets, £2 billion set aside for a no deal scenario.

Do you think it won’t affect you? Is that it?

 

she complains about the leave campaign far more than i do now. brings it up every time she feels the government do something dishonest. she's quite pissed off.

 

I can foresee the prospect of a no deal Brexit causing more civil unrest and disobedience that the Poll Tax did 30 years ago.

A second referendum which reverses Brexit will cause far less upset.

 

Surely it is time for a re-think here. It is all well and good to decide that you want to dedicate your life to sword swallowing, but after you end with a scimitar where your bronchial passages once were, it is perfectly acceptable to switch paths and take up bookkeeping.

 

1 - Yes I read it, I actually read it before. 2) correct, polls are not facts though. Never said no-one. Not enough to swing the vote though by a large margin.

And you are again drawing straight lines. Even if it can be actually proven that half the leave vote believed it, they may have already been voting leave anyway.

 

When I say anything like this it is dismissed as "anecdotal." Funny how it isn't anecdotal when it doesn't suit the argument. Read back the 600 odd pages and count how many times anything I have said has been dismissed as anecdotal.

 

You'd have thought so wouldn't you?

But apparently the people have spoken, 2.5 years ago, and that's it now. It would be undemocratic not to shove a long sword up the nation's arse, because 52% of cat owners once endorsed it. Or something.

 

Last week the EU (and many of the 27s reps) stated openly that they were moving forward with no-deal planning. Not even a whisper from the remainers.

This week the government announces they are finally doing the same. Wow the internet went mad today.

The extra troops may be needed if we do actually leave.....like we voted to do.......because the remain activists are much more likely to charge around being violent and smashing things up than the leavers are.

 

I'm not going back to book-keeping. jumped away from book-keeping 22 years ago other than my own of course which is all up to date as per usual.

 

I think plenty of MP’s talked about it in the emergency debate today, which was the first opportunity many of them had to mention it in a public forum. I hadn’t realised the internet was the sovereign authority in this country.

And what you say about “activists” is just sophistry. The fact is there will be millions of people scared to death about the consequences of no deal, whereas most leavers will rightly realise they have dodged a bullet if we end up staying in.

 

A lot of you are suggesting another refendum...........for a variety of reasons, Including because the majority wasn’t big enough. So let’s say they have one and the remainders win with a 52% majority against the leavers 48%. What would you want to happen then?? Just go along with latest vote?

 

3,500 military personnel ready / set aside in case. Not in the plan but there if need be. Are you insinuating that this will indeed be necessary. No-one wants to use the troops but it is inevitable? Bit like a backstop........that is there just in case....no-one wants to use it but it is there just in case..........Are you saying that it is inevitable there will be troops on the street?

And yes £2bn planning. Should we only plan for the only option that a few hundred people in that house want? Maybe tell Merkel (we are only funding this option) and not fund any other planning at all?