The money markets think she is going to win, the pound has bounced back to 1.26 USD to the pound today. It was 1.24 this morning.
She's clearly going to win. Enough MPs have already committed to vote for her. But Cameron putting his mug into view at the moment is not a good idea - if you read the responses on Twitter, he isn't well liked!
Really?? I wonder why? Do you think it’s somethng to do with him creating this whole clusterfuck by trying to stamp on the right wing of his own party? And then making a total balls of his own referendum? Or perhaps it’s because he ****ed off like a thief on the night and left others to try and clear up the mess he made?
A little from column A and a little from Column B. Also brooding on "Really?" - not sure what you mean by it, but just to disavow you of the view that I was surprised by the reaction - I even started my post with what did this chump think would happen? I posted it cause the reaction was extreme (but fair) and it amused me thinking of him reading it and deciding it wasn't his best idea.
I'm not sure how May can come out of this well. She'll win the vote of confidence, but will have been further undermined by probably 50 or more of her own MPs, who will have rejected not only her Brexit deal, but her leadership per se. These rebel MPs aren't going to go away or suddenly fall in line. So where does she go from here? Her party is divided; how can she govern? Even with all her MPs on board, she still relies on the DUP - which incidentally she can't at present either!
I was looking at Trump's face in his tv debate with the Dems. He was totally pissed at the end and his face had turned as red as his tie.When he left the stage he went into another tantrum throwing papers all over the place. Will Ms May keep HER composure,one wonders?
Probably 50? At least 48 have submitted letters saying that they have no confidence in her. I think she goes if the number gets to 100. That would be roughly a third of her MPs.
Thing is Luke, nobody can unite this rabble. They’ve been infighting for decades over Europe, and a new leader won’t stop that. Where she’s gone wrong with Brexit is, as I’ve said on the PL board, to feed the ERG crocodile for the last 2 years hoping it would eat her last. And that’s exactly what it’s trying to do now.
I think it will be more than 50 but a lot less than 100. Many will vote for her even if they don't support her as it's preferable to having the turmoil of a leadership contest. A leadership contest makes a vote of no confidence in Parliament more likely - and that raises the possibility of a General Election.
In essence it is 2 parties that cannot stay together much longer. Quite possibly the Labour party is too. Change the voting system and then break the parties down to being a little less of a broad church so that they actually agree with each other.
Brief check, has anyone mentioned that Jeremy Corbyn was right to ignore the overtures of Chuka Umunna, Anna Soubry and Vince Cable and not call a No Confidence vote? Thought not...
I think Labour is certainly majority anti Brexit, but unfortunately their current leader is pro. The two main parties have become increasingly polarised to the extremes of the political spectrum. UK Politics is crying out for a middle of the road party that the majority of the UK public can unite around.
I can give two very good reasons why people calling out for a centrist leader are going to get burned: Nick Clegg and Emmanuel Macron Both of them campaigned on the basis of being not-too-left-wing (although in Macron's case that wasn't difficult, given he was up against Le Pen The Second...) but in both cases the moment their feet were under the desk they exposed what a sham it was, be it Clegg destroying the Lib Dems for a generation the moment he told his MPs to fall in line and vote for the increase in tuition fees in spite saying they'd do the exact opposite in their election manifesto, while since Macron came to power he gave the top 1% of earners a massive tax break, loaded austerity onto the lowest earners, and then dumped a hike in fuel tax on the electorate - all policies that wouldn't look out of place from a Tory PM That's the problem with "centrism" - nine times out of ten it boils down to pretending to be left-wing until the votes come in, and when they do the mask gets tossed aside and you're lumbered with a right-wing leader anyway. LadyC has that one beat: her MP (until last summer, anyway...) was the one who was sat on a long list of safety recommendations for tower blocks for a couple of years, which really wasn't a good look when Grenfell Tower caught fire...
It would have to be a credible alternative - emphasis on the word credible. I can’t think of anybody currently, save possibly David Milliband, who would qualify for that label. Which is probably why we haven’t seen one. For me, current politics is far too polarised. As the Tories move further right, labour moves further left. I don’t believe the vast majority of the public has much confidence in either of them.
It's not a case of Labour moving further to the left, as they;re clearly to the right of the Greens, more a case of the Overton Window being dragged so far to the right in the past twenty years that people don't know what left is. Realistically the political spectrum should look something like this RIGHT..........CENTRE..........LEFT And every party can be placed somewhere inbetween - barring parties such as the SNP and Plaid Cymru, who aren't parties but a collection of factions from across the spectrum coexisting because they know damn well that if they stood separately they'd split the vote and whichever Tory/Labour/Lib Dem candidate had the stronger backing would win as a result The issue is that, during the Kinnock years, the Overton Window started to look more like this RIGHT.......CENTRE.............LEFT And since then, the combination of Blair and Clegg has made the Overton Window look more like this RIGHT....CENTRE................LEFT This is why there's some Tory supporters who genuinely believe Ted Heath was a socialist, because they think that because he was to the left of Thatcher, Cameron or May that means he's left-wing, even though anyone doing approximately five minutes of research would come to the conclusion that he was clearly to the right of Corbyn, Miliband or John Smith On the subject of Miliband, what undermined him (other than "Look! He eats a bacon sandwich in a weird manner!") was how so many of his cabinet were a perfect example of how Blair had shifted the centre into the right because so much of his Shadow Cabinet is made up of people you could swap in and out of the Tory party and nobody would notice the difference such as Alistair Darling, Ed Balls, Douglas Alexander, Chuka Umunna, Hilary Benn, Tristram Hunt, Yvette Cooper and Angela Eagle - or to put it another way, the point where your choice at the polls is the Conservative party or a conservative party.
