Off Topic Political Debate

Called 'making the law as you go along' - let no legal obstacle stand in the way of the abuse of power. This is all even worse that the abuses of the Thatcher regime - have you no respect for the traditions of British democracy whatsoever ?

 

And that is the position of a minority government. Go against the will of parliament on the Brexit deal and you have lost the DUP. You cannot govern.

 

The withdrawal bill was fully debated and voted on in parliament, I'm not sure how more democratic a government could be?

 

This is quite interesting.

EU (Withdrawal) Bill: Where are we now on the ‘meaningful ...

 

You know as well as I do that there is not a majority for a hard Brexit, either in Parliament or in the nation as a whole. As a result you also know that the only way forward for you and for the small band of conspirators you have championed is to disrupt all proceedings hoping that time will simply run out - there is no other way forward for you, but it will not succeed. You cannot govern without parliament - any attempt to do so will make the country ungovernable.

 

At one of the most pivotal moments for the UK economy in decades, it is unacceptable that Westminster politicians have chosen to focus on themselves, rather than on the needs of the country.

The utter dismay among businesses watching events in Westminster cannot be exaggerated. Our firms are worried, investors around the world are baffled and disappointed, and markets are showing serious strain as this political saga goes on and on.

History will not be kind to those who prioritise political advantage over people’s livelihoods. British Chamber of Commerce.

The Tories think they are the party for business. They need to think again.

 

June 15th is not exactly now I would suggest.

 

I repeat, the default position is for the UK to leave without a deal if May's plan is rejected. Of course the government can decide otherwise, not parliament.

 

I don't see much evidence of businesses prioritising people's livelihoods over business advantages. What's more, the concept of a 'national interest' is at best a pretty woolly one....there are about as many versions of what it is as there are people to put the question to, hence the near impossibility of delivering a future which meets everyone's expectations.

 

It is perfectly acceptable for politicians to express opinions which they obviously feel would benefit the country. The Brexiteers are simply expressing many of the views of those 17.5 million that voted to leave the EU. This is not the time for cowardice and cowering from the bullying tactics employed by Brussels and the weasel submissive attitude of some of our politicians. The British Chamber of Commerce have a torrid history of getting it wrong on Europe.

 

Those calendars are marvellous things.

 

It looks odds on that May will win her vote of no confidence but at least she has promised to leave sometime after Brexit. In the meantime hopefully she is not able to inflict too much damage. Her 'deal' is still liable to be rejected by parliament.

 

The question that has been asked is can the party be led? It is clearly in meltdown over Brexit, something that will hang around its neck for years to come.

 

The problem anti-Tories have is the alternative party is still unpopular. The LP should be way way ahead in the polls given the difficulties the government is currently experiencing. Theresa May, who looks like she will survive at this stage, is much more popular in the country than Corbyn. Those predicting doom for the Tories are really living in hope rather than any obvious signs of a decent alternative.

 

This really doesn't get to the heart of what has gone wrong within government. Until a general election is called there is no way of telling what the result might be, so to try and say we are in a mess, but others might be worse is actually speculation. It is the government who are supposed to be in power, even if they have had to get the DUP to prop them up. The question was can the Tory party be led, and while they have the vocal rump using the situation to make trouble, there is no one within that can unite it. If the party cannot come together, what chance do they have of getting the country back together?

 

I think there is one man who can unite the Party, and indeed the country, and I for one hope that they make him PM as soon as possible - step forward Sajid Javid.

 

I am not sure that he is the answer. He seems to be good with words, but not with actions.

 

Just seen an item from Market Harborough Conservative Club. Even at my advanced years I doubt that I would have been old enough to get in.

 

Not sure I want them united... they've divided the country for their own ends and should be made to wallow in it. Split to the right wingers like 19th century mogg and nazinige and then then to the more rational thinkers in the party like.... erm, ermmmm…

 

Michael Gove predicts the PM will ‘win and win handsomely’ asked what numbers that meant he said ‘I studied English, not maths’. This doesn't sound good from a man who has to deal with quotas. I hope he has some good civil servants who have some ideas on counting.