Off Topic Political Debate

As I watched the PM and Tory party in meltdown yesterday afternoon I received an e-mail from the District Council in the UK reminding me to send in my form to maintain my voting rights. I think I will be sending it off very soon.

 

Sad to see we cannot have a decent discussion about politics on this thread without falling into partisan sniping!!

There are so many major and pressing issues ... all conveniently ignored due to the Brexit mess

 

Talking to my youngest on the phone Sunday she was telling me about just how bad things have become for her in the NHS. At her clinic she is supposed to treat 18 people a day. That gives her time to be thorough and make sure that she does not get emergency re-visits. Due to loss of staff she is now having to see 25 people in the day, and an additional two hours work, unpaid. If she wants to make an appointment for a patient to see a specialist, the computer system does not allow her to do that, she has to walk with the patient through the hospital, to a different department. This is the system that has been in the development stage for 10 years. There is also a new problem happening due to the length of wait for GP appointments. By the time someone is referred to her, a problem can become deep seated, and sometimes results in surgery. Unfortunately it doesn't look like improving in the near future as there are staff shortages right across the NHS.
This really is a major problem that is not getting attention, while other things are taking up the government time and money. Warnings have been coming out about another crisis this winter, but the everyday work that is going on is already in crisis.

 

I have a sister who is a GP and another who is an specialist oncology nurse.... their workloads are ridiculous to the point where they cannot do their jobs properly... and it will only get worse. I despise the current government every bit as much, and possibly more so, as I despised the wicked witch of the north in the 1980's: I didn't think that could happen.

 

Surely can't be the great Margaret Thatcher, one of the most popular UK PM's of all time. We could certainly do with her now, she would rout those cheese eating monkeys.

 

Very soon No tory will be mp in any urban centre in the North.. I wonder how the so called natural party of government can square that they are so divisive.

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England looks a pretty shade of blue to me

 

For anyone unable to comprehend fact the detail is here:

http://election-data.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Rural_Urban_final.pdf

 

Another illustration of the hopeless of debating with those who believe they and they alone are right....

In much of the debate on here it is impossible to have an open discussion on any issues... due to prejudice really....

 

Silly, I don't know anybody who debates thinking their point is wrong?

 

Testing my hypothesis...

Any views on Marcuse's theory of repressive desublimation? Are we all controlled by the manipulation of desire?

 

Oh god, my head hurts!

 

Can you say that in 17th century Cantonese? I may find it easier to comprehend

 

Not just me then.... good to know!

 

I do believe it is on topic, at least I think it has a political flavour.

 

My brain is frazzled - been in a Parliamentary Committee all day. One thing I do still find rather endearing about going to the House is the almost archaic protocols. When they vote on a legislative clause they lock the doors of the room - and if anyone enters the room without a jacket or tie or stands up when the chair person is standing they're asked to leave.
More interestingly the place was pretty much in lockdown for Tory MPs. They'd all been instructed not to leave the Palace in case a vote was triggered in the chamber. Would have been exciting if it wasn't so bloomin' terrifying...

 

Reminds me of Gormenghast for those who have been there.....

 

So the Tory party MPs have decided to trigger a leadership election. Just how self indulgent can they be? Millions of people within the country and outside currently have their lives on hold. They do not know if they will have a job in three months time, what their status might be even if they have lived in a country for years and contributed to the services and economy. The PM has a deal of sorts, yet some say that is not the deal they wanted. No one asked at the time of the referendum should the deal be hard boiled, or runny enough to dip your toast in, so any deal is a deal. We have seen time wasted and the government weakened when the ill judged election was called, and the country did not give the Tories a mandate. This is not about the good of the country, but the ambitions of certain people.

 

It was Freud's nephew who invented marketing and consumerism.... which can be considered a way of keeping the masses under control etc. And of course Freud know what was what in this area, people have an insatiable urge for satisfaction, part of our biology, and if you can just programme it into materialism you have got them... That is why most ads have subliminal sex etc in them. I used to shock my undergrads with some classic ads. and reveal the hidden sexual triggers in them.....

On repressive desublimation, wiki says it easier than me!:

Marcuse's famous concept repressive desublimation refers to his argument that postwar mass culture, with its profusion of sexual provocations, serves to reinforce political repression. If people are preoccupied with inauthentic sexual stimulation, their political energy will be "desublimated"; instead of acting constructively to change the world, they remain repressed and uncritical.

Basically we are kept enslaved to materialism......

Experiment..... Watch the ads on any TV channel for an hour!

Any views on this?


It transcends traditional political divides so an open subject for debate

 

Pure selfishness on the part of those Tories. She was completing a task on behalf of the country, no doubt a failed project, but it was never down to her in any case, perhaps it was just unwinnable, not possible to have everything that everyone wanted etc.