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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    I read about that and was too dispirited to draw attention to it. He was a lodger to the victims parents who took him him when he had been kicked out of his own family home.

    I hope, like with the taxi rapist, common sense and decency will prevail.
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    never heard of him till this morning
    Montgomery ن Retweeted The Parole Board
    Opportunity here for press and public to attend an event where they can ask Parole Board why they thought releasing "changed" triple child killer David McGreavy was a good idea in person. (He impaled a baby, a 2-year-old, and a 4-year-old on a neighbour's railings.) #SackTheBoardhttps://twitter.com/Parole_Board/status/1069603999047983104…
    Jack Montgomery ن added,
    The Parole Board@Parole_Board
    The @Parole_Board is holding its annual Open Management Committee Meeting on 12 December 2018. Go here to find out how to take part: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/parole-board-open-management-committee-meeting…
     
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  3. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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  4. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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  5. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Breaking MPs have approved a motion which finds ministers in contempt of Parliament and orders the immediate publication of the “final and full” legal advice on the Brexit deal

    Government defeated in contempt of Parliament vote 311-293.
     
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  6. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    MPs have found that the government was in contempt of parliament by refusing to publish the legal advice it was given on the Brexit negotiations.

    What a farce this whole process is.
     
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  7. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we should have another vote like the last one but next time if leave win we should remain in the EU and give away every thing to them?
    That might make some happy.
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Art. 50 : the Hokey-Cokey clause:

    You put your Notice in,
    You pull your Notice out,
    In out, In out,
    Fill them all with fear and doubt,
    You do the hokey cokey 'till you get your way,
    Then sack Theresa May.
     
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  9. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    So have I just heard that government has just given itself more powers and that if mays deal fails then they decide what we should and vote on it? If I have heard this right then that would kill off Brexit and democracy. Most MPs are remainers so we know where this is going.
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    EU banks guilty of huge tax fraud
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    Up to €55.2bn has been lost to tax fraud by the EU’s top banks, it has been claimed in a new report. Styled “the biggest tax robbery in European history”, it included some of the EU’s largest banks such as Deutsche, Barclays, JPMorgan, UBS and Santander.
    The fraud was executed via the “cum-ex” purchases of bonds and shared, a method by which banks can hide the identities of their clients. The clients are then able to claim multiple tax breaks on the trades. It is estimated to have costs taxpayers in Germany alone €31.8bn between 2001 and 2016.
    The findings are the result of a massive cross-border investigation involving 12 countries and 19 media outlets, compiling over 180,000 pages of documents, all of which was published on October 18.
    It was only recently that Denmark’s biggest lender, Danske bank, was discovered to have engaged in the biggest money laundering scam in European history, channelling €200bn of Russian money via Estonia. Deutsche Bank has already admitted handling some of the funds.
    And yet, remarkably, the EU is still pressing on with its banking union plans. Integration always comes first. At a recent summit in Brussels the plans were agreed to move forward, with leaders claiming it would provide a more stable environment.
    The existing levels of information exchange within the EU, as demonstrated by the cum-ex scandal, did nothing to stop such widespread fraud taking place.
    As usual, the overwhelming political desire to increase integration is pushing the project faster than its structures and states can cope with. The ‘integrate then fix’ model doesn’t work, as shown by the severity of the eurozone crisis. The EU needs to start recognising this.
     
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  11. bobmid

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    They really don't help themselves do they
     
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    This is what I've said all along that the ruling elite would do.
     
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  13. ELLERS

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    If they don't implement Brexit this country will lose 1000 years of democracy. That would be more of a problem than a no deal brexit.
     
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    Can Brexit be stopped is the big question, surely not as it has been passed into LAW.
     
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  15. sb_73

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    Got a link for that Ellers? Not doubting you, but would like to see the detail.

    Begs the question what’s the difference between being ****ed over by the EU and being ****ed over by your own sovereign government?
     
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  16. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they can just say "that's it we will stay in". Col could be right in that remainers make it so hard to leave that they push for a second vote. That seems to be gathering steam... However, I believe that leave would win by a bigger majority if it happened. As I said before I have 2 friends that voted remain and wouldn't do the same next time whereas Brexitiers will still vote leave especially after how they have been treated.
    Constitutionally I think the whole thing of a second vote would be a nightmare. Remembering that both Labour and Tories said they would implement Brexit.
     
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  17. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Just read what Ellers put. Think he's right
     
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  18. ELLERS

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    Dominic Grieve amendment vote. The government lost it. Basically it is regarding having a say over Plan B (when May's deal fails). It is really to stop a no deal but others are saying it means they can vote on other things.
     
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  19. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    i think something will be agreed upon after the fifth or sixth peoples vote
     
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  20. ELLERS

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    I listened to the radio today and some Scottish MP was being so patronising. Firstly she said "the people didn't know what they voted for 2 years ago and we should put it back to them" ? <doh>. Then she said that "the government should really make these tough decisions"! <doh><doh>
     
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