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  1. Stockholm Tiger

    Stockholm Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Compounded by the fact it is same Silva who applied for the job at the start of the season, when we wouldn't be playing catch-up, but the club was too tight to pay for his backroom staff......
     
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  2. Newland Tiger

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    Yes but look how cheap Mike Phelan was , I wonder if he even got a pay rise to do the managers job
     
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  3. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    Really?
    No problem with getting rid of Bruce, but the way it was done was utterly appalling, and put us into our downward spiral ever since. Just one item on the list of why the Allams are ****s.
     
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  4. Asterix

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    The man resigned, walked out. He has never given his reason for doing so.

    Silva's spending is another chapter in the fast paced world of prem manager sackings and coming and goings. Nothing to do with the would we, wouldn't we Bruce argument.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    It's got everything to do with the credence of Obi's claim that sacking Bruce saved the club, the spending simply didn't end when Bruce's tenure did.
     
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  6. Asterix

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    Correct, the purse strings were loosened for Silva. But without knowing how much Bruce wanted to spend on players and the additions to the wage bill, Obi's theory still holds.

    By giving Silva money, the argument we would have stayed up had Bruce been given the same, is slightly flawed by the fact we were relegated anyway.
     
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  7. mike_hcafc

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    More importantly no takeover of hcafc in the offing so what will they do next in Jan and beyond?
     
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  8. The B&S Fanclub

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    just what we thought then. Move on. Nothing to see here.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    You’ve completely missed the point.
     
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  10. Godrevy Buoy

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    I don’t think that Steve Bruce walked just because of money. Not many have walked away from a premier league job. More to do with the fact he was having to deal with two twats on a regular basis and couldn’t stomach anymore. Most people who are staying away are not doing it totally because of the money they are saving. They just can’t stomach these two twats anymore. No real difference between them and Bruce.
     
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  11. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Bruce’s spending wasn’t the problem. He used the money well, he got good targets in. Problem was he didn’t have a ****ing clue what to do with them.
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    If he’d have walked as soon as the season finished this lie would have more credence.

    He took the first few weeks of training and had a tantrum when we wasn’t given millions. As he stated at the time he had to walk for the good of the club, because he knew he wouldn’t have a ****ing chance of being competitive in the national league without having a budget 2x or 3x that of his rivals.
     
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  13. Asterix

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    I have no idea which point I missed.
     
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  14. Top_Tiger

    Top_Tiger Well-Known Member

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    How about he crap we’ve bought since?
    Kingsley
    Toral
    De Wijs
    Stewart
    Dicko
    Milinkovic

    And the money we burned on loans when Silva was here?

    Ehab has totally knackered the job, to blame Bruce is ludicrous.
     
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  15. Kempton

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    Ehab likes Lee Darnborough. A lot.
     
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  16. Godrevy Buoy

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    Give over Bob. Whilst we all admit some of Bruce’s selections and plays didn’t pan out that’s the same for many managers. Some of the top managers have wasted millions on players who didn’t make it Bruce in the main signed many good players who were resold for very good money. I think his relationship had just come to an end with the owners and there was no relationship or trust left. If you want to look at some of the reasons this club is in free fall listen to some of the ex players who were racing to get out of the door and then listen to some of the people on this forum who don’t go anymore. Maybe it’s everyone else’s fault and nothing to do with the owners. For me Bruce has been our best manager by a long chalk, well suited to the club and the people here and we enjoyed some great success and good times. Every year three teams get relegated and usually there is one that you don’t expect given the squad. It happens but it don’t make you a **** manager, it just happens sometimes.
     
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  17. Obadiah

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    I don't think he walked because we didn't sign Andre Gray, although I think it played a part, along with the relegation after the Allams had put another £20 million into the club after the FA Cup Final and then borrowed £20 million from the bank to fund the promotion campaign by keeping the squad together.

    The money we spent under Silva was predominantly on loans. We didn't have huge wages to fund the if we got relegated.

    I think the Allams are incompetent as football club owners, including Ehab, but that does mean he didn't save the club by forcing Bruce out.

    It cost the Allams £40 million to save Hull City from Bartlett. They are now owed £63 million after spending over half a billion pounds. We have next to nothing to show in terms of squad or facilities. Yes the Allams are ultimately responsible for that but a huge share of the blame lays at Bruce's door. Especially as he had no interference in his decisions until Ehab started saying no.
     
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  18. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I have never criticised Bruce’s signings, which would be hard to argue with.

    I criticised his poor management and his poor character. The man is a fraud, a liar, a cheat and a monumental bellend.

    Whether he managed our highest league finish by one position with a budget bigger than every other city manager in history combined is irrelevant to those facts.
     
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  19. Top_Tiger

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    If the Allams had backed Bruce the year we went up, maybe given up 20 million he'd have kept us up, even though we had a squad of only 12-14 thats probably the best group of players we have ever had, blended with a bit of experience and a few loans. That season we went down because Ehab caused a sh1tstorm because he wanted to rub the fans faces in it. He's not a very acute businessman because the short term pain of circa 20 million could have got us another couple of seasons of the TV deal. Ehab probably spunked as much with Silva and all the crackpot loans he got trying to sort out his own mess.

    I do agree Bruce was maybe not the man to take us forward in the Premier League but after Sheffield Wednesday he was absolutely the right man to have another crack it. Anyway, its irrelevant because Ehab messed up the potential takeover at that time for being a greedy parasite just like he probably is now.
     
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  20. TonyNormansGloves

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    Or he could see that they were determained to run the club into the ground, and wanted no part of it.
     
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