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The only reason why people think la liga is better than the prem.

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  1. MUFCOK

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    Explain how I don't know anything about Barcelona then? You haven't proved anything, just pulled up a couple of youtube videos of games where they may use different tactics against different opponents. It shows you up as a clueless bellend. <ok>
     
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    I agree that La Liga's not as good as it was. It was much better for having strong sides in Valencia, Sevilla and even Deportivo who've now been relegated.

    But when English fans keep going on about this, it just sounds like Little Englander crap. Talking down the rivals to make it look like their strengths (better technique) don't count for very much. I'm sure Levante probably wouldn't fancy a cold night at the Britannia, but it doesn't make it any less of a cliche.

    Maybe England's league is better, but Spanish coaching of youngsters is far better than England's, and this will benefit their nation for years to come.
     
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    Some how I am guessing you will. You see you have been 'arguing' with me for a while on here and to be honest I just think you like showing yourself up as the cock you are. Your posts are full of drivel, commenting on Barcelona only from what you have seen when they play an English team or Real Madrid and its embarrassing. You judge players and teams from their scores on Football Manager. You are a clueless ****** who has zero football knowledge.

    I'm sure this post will boil your blood that little bit too much and I await your next embarrassing reply <ok>
     
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  4. MUFCOK

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    I don't think many people care about that if they want to watch a good game of football. A lot of people say Barcelona's football is that boring it can put you to sleep and I agree. Though it is very effective I would much rather see a blood and thunder derby like the Liverpool v Everton than the pathetic feigning of injury and blatant cheating of El Clasico.
     
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  5. MUFCOK

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    Spot on.
     
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    Remember 5-10 years ago when you had top sides like valencia, real, barca, deportivo and various other sides? It used to be good. Real and barca even got pushed out of the top 2 fairly often. Its only really been these last two years when the other clubs have sold alot and real and barca have bought alot. Real and barca now pay insane wage bills (barca are the best paying sportsteam in the world). There is no way other clubs can compete with this anymore. Real and barca need to realise this and make the changes needed. The EPL and german league are the most attended/watched leagues because they are competitive. La liga needs to follow suit (as la liga chairman all say - except real and barca). Even the italian league (which has 5/6 big clubs and not everyone in the country supports just two teams like in spain) - is now selling rights collectively.
     
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    And the Spanish national team are one of the most boring team I have ever witnessed. They're Barca without Messi, a keep ball machine who take no risks. They are the best national team in the world but they are also the worst to watch from an entertainment perspective (apart from Nigel Worthington's Northern Ireland!) and are the lowest scoring team to ever win a World Cup.
     
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    That is only if you care about the national team, which I don't. So I don't care about beating my chest for the good of my country. I say it because I believe it to be the truth. I can admit Spanish players are lightyears ahead of English players at the moment. I can also admit Barcelona would walk the Premier League if they were in it. But give me the competitive Premier League anyday.

    Like I said before I honestly would rather watch a derby like the Merseyside or the Black Country derby where the fans are just as involved in the outcome as the players. You don't see many games like that at all in Spain.
     
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    Yeah, they need to do something to change the TV rights situation, it's not healthy for the league as a whole.
     
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    Exactly as great as they both are it is so boring and while good for the football purists it rarely makes for an entertaining end to end game.
     
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    I don't care about the national team either, although I do care about the development of young players. My point is that the English are a little too quick to talk other countries down. It was the same with Italy when Serie A started to weaken. But there are boom and bust cycles, and these countries will come strong again. The English need to press home the advantage while they're ahead.
     
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  12. MUFCOK

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    It's a shame this country's league has been so strong over the past 7 or so years with 4 different teams appearing in the Champions League final yet only 2 of them have won it and the fact that this Barcelona team are the best side the world has seen for at least 20 years and are sweeping all before them. If this freak side who are just so good weren't about then people would without a doubt say that the Premier League is better.
     
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    So what you're saying is if Barca and Real diminish significantly in quality, let's say to the level of the top English teams, then their league would be 'better'.

    Makes sense.
     
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    Or if the money was distributed evenly then maybe the other sides could improve and make the league 'better'

    THAT makes sense <ok>
     
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    my only objection is your assertion that more competetive = better

    IMO it doesn't mean the same thing
     
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    That's not the only assertion tho'. The main assertion is that the top two clubs in La Liga are better than the top two in the EPL, tho' City vs Real (assuming they end up in 2nd in each league) could be a close run thing this year, but the other 18 clubs in La Liga are worse than the other 18 in the EPL. So the average level of quality in the EPL is likely to be higher than that of La Liga. Even Brum and Stoke managed to qualify for the EL group stage, whilst Sevilla who came 5th in La Liga last year went out in qualifying.
     
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    No it was the same tactics against different opponents. It was only different to the tactics used before Guardiola. I don't expect you to admit you were wrong but why do you have to continue the argument?
     
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    Why not? The league is split in two so that when either Barca or RM play any other team you know who is going to win. How can you not prefer evenly matched teams facing each other compared to one side dominating the other each time they play?
     
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  19. redconn

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    I prefer watching the best possible football players playing the best possible football. And the top2 in La Liga are miles ahead of the top prem teams. However I think Citeh may be getting up there soon.

    If the German league ended with every team on equal points, the chances of me watching them is still approaching nil. And it wouldn't make it the best league either.
     
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    But a league has 20 teams, not just 2! What about the other clubs that take part, do they not matter? By your logic if the big 2 played each other 38 times then that would be the best league in the world. I agree competitiveness on its own is not good enough to make a great competition, quality has to come in to it. However they are both extremely important.
     
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