Less of this frivolity. Brexit is a very serious topic. The eurozone economy is very flat or even in the case of Germany negative growth. The eurozone need us should we kick them when they are down. Just as they are trying to do to us. Too bl--dy true we should. Time we got out and let them stew. Wake up Britain you will regret it otherwise.
By having a remainer as PM we've wasted the opportunity of what was a strong bargaining position from the start We've been like a team given a 3 goal head start and then clutching defeat from the jaws of victory by conceding 2 own goals and a penalty and ending up drawing 3-3 It's now gone into extra time, we're down to 9 men and clinging on for penalties
please log in to view this image At times this thread reads like the above just some kind of blind faith in British exceptionalism. If they need us as much as we need them or as some say they need us more than why have the people above failed (at least two have been directly involved in negotiations)?
In order to negotiate you need two willing parties. I am fast coming round to the idea of telling the EU to get stuffed and they ain't getting any of our money. We can make capitol out of this, doubt that the German and French population would be very pleased with their politicians if the uk just pulled up stakes and moved on.
Seriously.........? The EU which lets not forget has to keep unity with 27 countries turned up on day one ready for negotiations. They set out their proposals from the start, giving a range of options depending on whether we wanted to give up FOM, leave customs unions, leave single market etc. We rocked up with a smirking clueless unprepared David Davis, with no set plan or ambition (spouting the meaningless Brexit means Brexit seemed to be our plan for the first 6 months), a ruling party completely divided on the issue who mid-way through the negotiations wasted 3 months. If you take a look outside the UK then they are just not obsessed with Brexit. There is not even a fraction of the coverage (Ireland as an exception). Would they rather we didn't leave? Yes. Would they blame their politicians if we left? Absolutely not. There would be a collective shrug of their shoulders and shake of their heads at out choice and then getting on with it. It will affect them but nowhere near as much as it will affect us. But frankly we are currently the annoying attention seeking toddler in the corner that they just want to shut up so they can get on with the grown up stuff. please log in to view this image
Another roller coaster day then. Looks like she will keep the rest of the cabinet I'm guessing hoping to influence the direction of the deal once it's voted down (but also wanting to keep their noses clean as loyal party members in case the leadership campaign gets past a stalking horse first round) but may have a leadership contest. Will be interesting to see if a leadership challenge has any legs beyond the core of ERG.
What are you remainers on here afraid of? Social deprivation as a result? - I've got news for you, we've got that right now and our past EU committments should take a lot of the blame for that. The collapse of our economy making us the poor nation of Europe? - if so I can see mass UK emigration to Poland and Latvia. Being outside the EU, we wont command influence in the world? - we haven't that much now and do we care anyway? Huge costs of a crash programme in crematorium building to cope wiht the mass suicides up and down the country. Historic ties with Europe will be broken - are you ****ing serious? We hate the French and they hate us, historically they always have. The Germans are only interested in themselves (and what's wrong with that?). The Southern European countries are ecomomies waiting to explode and we don't need to be part of it. The more recent Eastern European countries are trying to pull themselves into the 21st century by ditching the USSR whilst being spoon fed by Western Europe in our own interests. In other words to create an EU dependent buffer zone between ourselves and the nasty communists - nothing to do with altruism. (.....and I never comment on political and religious threads )
Reports tell us that English sparkling wines are pretty good, but when I was in Devon we were served local wine and to say it was p*ss would be an insult to urine.
we had a change of PM here a few months back (yes, another one). All the relevant parties were filmed slapping each other on the back and vowing eternal support, next day, a new PM. Theresa ain't safe.
