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  1. BobbyD

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    to be honest, worth every penny. He's the one along with Eriksen who really makes Harry tick.
     
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  2. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    He's been playing on the right of a 3 and surprise, surprise, it seems to suit him. He'll never be great but with us not replacing Big Vic and Mousa I and Winksy not having had a pre-season following surgery, he's lept up the list.

    Frankly, it says as much about our total paucity of options, which have also seen a 17 year old (albeit a very good one) on the bench for a game against Barcelona. He is improved........but not that much.
     
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    Hopefully the same offer goes to Eriksen and that is enough for him. With those 2 + Kane, it shouldn't be too hard to build a team around them.
     
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    1) Pochettino like a small squad. He wanted players shifted before players were bought because he does not like players sitting in the background moaning and causing problems.

    2) Pochettino had a select few first choice players he wanted...it was his list and they were not available in any affordable sense.

    3) Grealish was considered a squad signing but £25m for a player who has 1 hood season in the championship in 3 years it was a hail Mary of a signing...his form this season for Villa suggests we dodged a bullet imo...maybe it was felt repeating the Sissoko mistake (buying someone, anyone for the sake of it) was not worth it.

    4)...eeeerrrr that's it
     
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  5. Blue and White

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    Some players want to play football and not sit on the bench-this is one of our problems.
    Last night Carragher was going on about how we could/should have gone for Maguire because we could offer more than Leicester. What we couldn't offer was guaranteed first team football- he would not get ahead of Toby or Jan and if he doesn't play, he doesn't get into the England team.
    Again we can ask the question- which players are affordable and available who will walk into our team ?

    Yes there are also players who will take the money and sit on the bench but for that you need a load of dosh.
     
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    That's the issue so many websites fail to consider when running "Spurs should sign (insert striker name here) as Kane backup" before they suggest we sign somebody like Ciro Immobile...the same Ciro Immobile who is a regular starter for Lazio and the Italian national team, so the odds of him playing second fiddle to Harry Kane are nil. The problem is this leaves us in a position where our options are taking a punt on someone like Janssen, bringing in somebody winding down their career so not expecting many starts like Llorente, or really taking a risk by throwing Sterling or Parrott in at the deep end and hope we don't wreck their confidence.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Maguire would've made sense if Toby had left but seeing as he didn't, we had/ have no need for another top CB. We have three already so barring long term injuries to two of them, we'll always be strong there. We may need to revisit that idea in the coming summer though, unless Toby has a change of heart and pens a new deal.
     
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    Failing to buy midfielder(s) this summer has turned out to be a sizeable issue. If Mousa wasn't as limited as he is proving to be and Big Vic was making any headway in relation to his injury problem(s), we might have been able to justify leaving it for a year. However, it's painfully apparent that we're lacking options in that area, having had PL dominating midfielders only 2 years ago. It's unfeasible that it won't cost us.

    As a club, we know that we aren't going to be able to buy 'money no object' signings under our current regime. We need to identify players who are undervalued in their current clubs and not seen to be such by others. Also, we could do with buying them when thy're young, towards the end of their contracts or when they have buy-out clauses set too low. We wanted Ross Barkley, who wanted to come but we fell out with Everton/couldn't manage to afford his wages. It looks like that was a significant missed opportunity.

    This summer, we failed to correctly identify anyone within that very small grouping and it's costing us on the pitch. This was a failing across the management of the club, not just Daniel Levy. He's balancing what he's got to spend on transfers, wages, stadium, training ground, etc. When we've had money, like the Bale money, it's been spent on transfers. Whilst we have massively more income, we have a debt that's going to be the biggest in World football. Pretending that we have money that we don't and that the club and particularly Daniel Levy, have been squirrelling away money to burn as fuel this winter, is as ridiculous as it is pointless.

    If Mauricio Pochettino identified players like Ndombele and Martial, who weren't for sale, then that's hardly Levy's fault or something that he can alter. Equally, identifying a Serbian who'll cost £100m isn't going to resolve the issue, either. Joe Lewis isn't putting any capital into the club and as money doesn't grow on trees we have limited options of the requisite quality..

    So, we have to acknowledge that transfers continue to be an issue. Either we lower our aim or raise our budget. I'd expect those issues to have been resolved already and at least one player to come in this January (although we need 2). Whilst spending money on sub-standard bargains ain't smart, we've got to do something.
     
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    So who will we be selling in order to make a purchase?

    History suggests this is the only way we will be able to spend any decent money.
     
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    You're probably right. We owed £366m in June and that's probably well over over £400m now. To my knowledge, ENIC haven't taken any money out of the club during their ownership. Equally, they've put very little in, preferring to use the money the club makes to ensure its long term future by building the stadium, training ground, lodge, Lilywhite House, etc.

    ENIC have spent the money on improving the club's future..........just not all on players and wages, Lucas Moura represents our total net spend in the period of building the stadium. Player purchases will probably have to come from sales this season again but only because we've spent all the money, including a yearly profit of £163m.
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I’d say Dembele, Wanyama, GK, Janssen and possibly Llorente seeing as so far he’s played a total of about 15 mins, if that.
     
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    So how much could we make from selling those? 30 million if we are lucky
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Yeah about that I’d say, maybe £40m with Levy’s negotiating skills.
     
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    How about also Lloris? He would bring in quite a fee and there are rumours we are interested in Onana.
     
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    That's why I wonder if some swap deals might be on the cards, so for example cash + Dembele for Rabiot being the ideal move, although a straight swap with GKN for Oliver Burke is far more likely...
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I don’t think we’d sell him in Jan, mate. It’s definitely something we have to consider in the summer though. Onana would be a good shout to replace him, fits the mould of the new breed of keepers who are great shot stoppers as well as good with their feet.
     
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    Hugo was supposed to be one of the original sweeper keepers...he's seriously lost his marbles though it seems.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Yeah he’s declined massively over the past season and a half. Way too error prone. I used to consider him top 5 in the world not so long ago, now he barely makes top five in the Prem.
     
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    I think Gazza's problem is he isn't much of a sweeper keeper? Or he should be seriously pushing for the number 1 spot..id rather not spend huge amounts on a keeper. I think a keeper will always make mistakes or concede goals no matter how good they are. I don't think Allison has done much at Pool..it's more to do with what's in front of him now. I'd rather spend serious money, if we are going to on an outfield position.
     
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