Off Topic UK / EU Future

Roll on Freedom Day early next year.

 

Interesting that you totally ignore every post which asks awkward questions, or those which you would prefer to avoid SH. Far safer to go back to the well trusted soundbites.

 

...and that is the line of Bojo, Reessmogg and Farage.....

 

I have a vague memory of going outside my home in 1948 and looking up at the skies expecting to see masses of large aircraft heading east. During the whole of that year the Berlin airlift was underway supplying the food to the city that had been cut off by Russia at the start of the cold war. The western allies flew countless flights providing basic needs such as food, fuel and medicines. Here we are 70 years later and our government is talking about chartering ships and aircraft to fly in essential food and medicines, not because of hostile action by another country, but because of a bad decision of one political party. Sheer madness.

 

They are sensibly protecting the nation from potential hostile action by France.

 

Without the ridiculous position that this government has got itself into, there would be no need to even contemplate emergency measures such as these. There is nothing sensible about your stance.

 

Wanting the UK to be in the same position as the majority of countries around the world is not only sensible but a fundamental basic right. The EU is in great danger of imploding due to Italy's insistence its sovereignty is being challenged by Brussels. The eurocrat's project is increasingly being seem as a failure, just a matter of time before the UK is joined out of the door with other disillusioned members.

 

We have heard this argument for ten years and it hasn't happened. Time to dream up a new one. How much time do you need? Something like the decades that Rees-Mogg talks about maybe.

 

67% of people in the EU are happy with what it does for them, even in the UK twice as many people think it has been a force for good as those who think it has been bad. Even in Italy that gets quoted, more people can see the advantages than the opposite, and that number has grown over the past year. Actual figures, not wild wishful thinking.

 

The downright hostility and defiance shown by countries such as Hungary and Italy is a relatively new development. The Greek problem has not been solved just delayed until later. There has been a dramatic rise throughout the EU in political parties that oppose the eurocrats project, this opposition to more Europe will only increase. As the EU requires more integration for the survival of the euro as a currency things are not looking good at all.

 

wrong , Italy's support figure was 44% in the April 2018 report for the European Parliament. Italy is a major fault line which could severely damage the EU. The Italians are showing no sign on backing down at the moment.

 

Problems exist in every country in the world, yes even those that are thousands of miles away from the EU. Most are sorting out one way or another their issues, but for some people in the UK rather than get to grips with them it is easier to say it is the fault of the EU. Do you really think that while other countries around the EU manage to run a decent train service, someone in Brussels is responsible for the shambles in the south of England?

 

No I was not wrong. How many said they thought it was bad for the country? Why has the Italian population reversed their feelings in 12 months?

 

I am referring to the latest report commissioned by the EU parliament (April 2018) only 44% of Italians had a positive view of the EU so your statement was incorrect.

 

And how many thought the opposite?

 

Standard Eurobarometer Spring 2018.

When you actually study the EU's own report it makes damning reading. Only 30% in the UK trust the EU, only 34% in France, 36% in Italy. Only 42% on average for the whole of the EU. They have artificially bolstered the figures by adding the 'don't knows' to make it look more respectable.

 

Standard Eurobarometer 89 Spring 2018 European citizenship Report ...ec.europa.eu/commfrontoffice/publicopinion/index.cfm/ResultDoc/.../83538

 

When they see how broken the UK is after Brexit I'm positive those figures will change.

It's basically like the Life of Brian bit about the Romans.

 

Much better to read the evidence than some falsified and totally incorrect figures on the EU's unpopularity.

 

Do you mean high unemployment, low growth and abject poverty currently experienced in some EU countries?