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  1. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Political "isms" are like grand military plans.
    And as the saying goes : no plan survives first contact with the enemy.

    The enemy of the capitalist system is monopolies, cabals, unworthy protection
    ( "too big to fail" ) etc. And in all systems engineering :

    1. that which is systemically bad must be rooted out

    2. you can discern much about the interests of people, by how much of #1
    they will not allow to be put on the list of targets
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    You do realise that 4chan, which just so happens to be where the NPC meme originated, is note for two things: being the heart of internet troll culture and whipping up internet hate mobs - the most obvious example of which being the movement for ethics in games journalism that mainly consisted of sending rape and death threats to women who work in the games industry that was GamerGate?

    The fact that Trumpists use this as a source to prove they're not just internet trolls who use excessive amounts of sockpuppet accounts, only to prove that they;re internet trolls who set up excessive amounts of sockpuppet accounts to the point that their activity caused Twitter's algorithms to flag the accounts, is why it's a self-own - and the fact that they're getting so wound up by the meme being used against them takes us right back to

    1st component: { dishing out }
    2nd component: { - taking it }
    3rd component: { meltdown }

    That's the problem with the American right: they talk a lot of ****, but saying anything back to them causes them to spiral out of control, for example the NHS = Auschwitz dickbrain from a page or two back who responded to a reasoned and logical response with anger, ignorance, and rushing for the block button so fast he didn't have time to put down his prayer mat and face Mar A Lago. And that's why they lost the meme war before it started, because when you;re rushing out to set up so many Twitter bot accounts to prove a point, you're proving nothing but your own apocalyptic levels of butthurt.
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

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    Meanwhile, in the hate mines...

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  4. The RDBD

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    1. Fallacy (ad-hominem)

    What they are "noted for" does not change the context or effect
    of the NPC meme.


    2. http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2014/10/28/4116140.htm


    "The fact that Trumpists use this as a source to prove they're not just internet trolls who use excessive amounts of sockpuppet accounts, only to prove that they;re internet trolls who set up excessive amounts of sockpuppet accounts to the point that their activity caused Twitter's algorithms to flag the accounts, is why it's a self-own - and the fact that they're getting so wound up by the meme being used against them takes us right back to

    1st component: { dishing out }
    2nd component: { - taking it }
    3rd component: { meltdown }

    That's the problem with the American right: they talk a lot of ****, but saying anything back to them causes them to spiral out of control ..."

    ^ American right ^ [ you know the rest - still not at the heart of the matter yet ... ]
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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    ^ American right ^ [ you know the rest - still not at the heart of the matter yet ... ][/QUOTE]
    1. When you're using internet trolls as a source, and especially when you're trying to say "The left can't meme" when ripping off internet trolls, it undermines what you're saying

    2. It's funny how the "balanced views of GamerGate" fail to acknowledge the point that the main "evidence" to spark the campaign was a widely debunked blog post by a bitter ex-boyfriend that served as confirmation for people looking to vent their hatred on how women were working in the games industry and believed the only reason their games were reviewed well was because they were sleeping with reviewers. That's a balanced view of GamerGate.

    3. No, we reached the heart of the matter when I said this: If anyone is responsible for "do as I say, not as I do" groupthink it's the American right, because to them political debate isn't a debate at all but a chance to recreate the Salem witch trials and think that shouting the loudest means nobody can spot the obvious lies, misinformation or hypocrisy on their part. And that's the problem, people can, which is why they shout louder and shut down anyone who disagrees - and in the era of social media it's so much easier to create a nice, comfortable echo chamber for themselves as they just block anyone who disagrees, and the removal of any dissenting voices isn't unique to the American right, as Britain First's social media feeds regularly proved.

    4. You keep using algebra to avoid my point about the obvious self-own of Trump supporters trying to prove they don't use memes instead of arguments and try and spam debate into nothingness with sockpuppet accounts by them trying to spam debate with sockpuppet accounts that use memes instead of arguments, which is quite clearly their way of shouting the loudest to try and hide the obvious lies, misinformation or hypocrisy on their part. Obfuscation isn't an argument
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    The regressive Left do not appear to meme as well as the right.
    This is being commented on in Internet land :




    "2. It's funny how the "balanced views of GamerGate" fail to acknowledge the point that the main "evidence" to spark the campaign was a widely debunked blog post by a bitter ex-boyfriend that served as confirmation for people looking to vent their hatred on how women were working in the games industry and believed the only reason their games were reviewed well was because they were sleeping with reviewers. That's a balanced view of GamerGate."

    You mentioned GamerGate in true ad-hominem manner.
    I merely posted something on the topic that was not ad-hominem
    (for those readers who may be thinking WTF is "GamerGate" ) .


    3. No, we reached the heart of the matter when I said this: If anyone is responsible for "do as I say, not as I do" groupthink it's the American right, because to them political debate isn't a debate at all but a chance to recreate the Salem witch trials and think that shouting the loudest means nobody can spot the obvious lies, misinformation or hypocrisy on their part. And that's the problem, people can, which is why they shout louder and shut down anyone who disagrees - and in the era of social media it's so much easier to create a nice, comfortable echo chamber for themselves as they just block anyone who disagrees, and the removal of any dissenting voices isn't unique to the American right, as Britain First's social media feeds regularly proved."

    Still not the heart of the matter (keep going, I trust in you to get
    there in the end under your own steam) .


    "4. You keep using algebra to avoid my point about the obvious self-own of Trump supporters trying to prove they don't use memes instead of arguments and try and spam debate into nothingness with sockpuppet accounts by them trying to spam debate with sockpuppet accounts that use memes instead of arguments, which is quite clearly their way of shouting the loudest to try and hide the obvious lies, misinformation or hypocrisy on their part."

    Nope.

    I keep writing of this specific meme, which you first mentioned
    as an attempted flippant remark (more fool you) , because of the
    embarrassing meltdown it has caused among the regressive Left
    by seemingly epitomising them.
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    Which dispels the NPC meme on it's own.
    Endlessly and mindlessly repeating the same ****, over and over is NPC behaviour, isn't it?
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    Nope.

    it just means that the "right" are a better generator of memes
    (conveying a notion, the "trigger" effect on the dissenting audience
    etc) than the regressive Left.


    "Endlessly and mindlessly repeating the same ****, over and over is NPC behaviour, isn't it?"

    Sure, if you understand that statement by definition encompasses the regressive Left.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Explosive devices have been sent to the homes of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and George Soros, as well as the CNN building.

    Hmm, I wonder, which group of supporters all seem to have an irrational hatred of Obama, Hillary, Soros and CNN and are vocal about their hatred every chance they can get?

    Consider the NPC debate annihilated by real life - and, no, "real life" is not where the dickheads saying the Democrats obviously staged these attacks reside, just to make that one clear
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    On the plus side, gun crime's down...
     
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  11. Apparently FBI have found strange orange hairs in all the packages..... <laugh>
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    Must have been the return address on the one sent to CNN...
     
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    And five minutes later...
     
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    Somebody just moved up the list of potential suspects...
     
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    What a ****ing moron. <doh>
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    I knew the twat's name sounded familiar, so I checked my screengrab folder and look what I found!

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    It's never a good look when you make your Twitter handle fair game
     
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    2 people shot and killed/Kroger store Louisville, Kentucky.
     
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  18. Don’t worry, Ireland - the land of milk and honey is just down the road....... <doh>

    Our future - safe in their hands! <yikes>

     
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  19. Trump, whether by accident or design, is driving the US towards Civil War. Domestic Terrorism targeting opposition politicians and a media he has deemed to be the ‘Enemy of the People’.

    His rhetoric would be immediately classed as sedition if not emanating from the Head of State, but that is exactly what his words and actions amount to.
    For fecks sake, wake up America!
     
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    Is this like the recent attempted home-made Ricin stuff sent to
    various govt officials (including Trump) , where the claim was
    political motivation, and it turned out in the end that the
    perpetrator is apparently nothing more than suffering mental
    issues about the USA military ??

    Or have the police authorities determined (with lightning speed)
    that the perpetrator is definitely politically motivated (specifically
    hatred for the Democrats and their perceived supporters) ... ??
     
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