Off Topic UK / EU Future

I consider it to be my duty to educate, the Italians are now benefitting from my visit last year, they are now telling the EU to get stuffed.

 

The Greeks are simply moving further in debt, unable to pay, a bit like France but much worse.

The ERG Group are ensuring the ill fated Chequers plan is dead and a more distant trade deal, preferred by the EU, is put in place. Having a few frogs on our soil is a small price to pay plus it creates a few jobs, France cannot seem to create any.

 

It has been well reported here that Macron held a meeting last Wednesday to discuss with the bosses of the car manufacturers currently in the UK what their requirements would be to move production to France if they are forced out by a no deal. It seems that they all turned up, and were encouraged by what they heard. They have been warning the government what the likely outcome of a no deal would be, and this is just another step in formulating their plans.

 

These things can change SH. There was a time when French was the most important European language. With the English language no longer represented in the EU. (Ireland's official lang. is given as Gaelic) and France being Germany's most important business partner, together with a very inward looking USA. It might just be that schools within the EU. start giving priority to each others languages, over English. If English survives as an official language of the EU. then it will be with an Irish accent

 

Most multinational companies regard France as one of the last counties they would invest in, hence the high unemployment rate. Didn't did those international industrialists call France a 'basket case' a few years ago.?

Macron's popularity has dropped again, only half of other leaders May and Trump. Le Pen is waiting in the wings.

 

It often surprises me how often Europeans, when visiting other European countries, have to speak English to the locals to be understood. There is absolutely no chance English will be replaced. It will remain the official language of business in Airbus and others in Europe.

 

Macron's record on jobs is poor, French public not impressed.

French jobseeker tells Macron to help him find work - BBC Newshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45559355

 

Oh really SH. Travel around as I do and you would see adverts all over the place inviting people to apply for proper 35 hour a week jobs. Not these minimal jobs that get people off the unemployed register, then require the government to make up their wages. There is something very strange about your obsession with the country that you couldn't hack. Do you still owe them tax or something?

 

I rejected France because it wasn't good enough.

If there are jobs available near you it is your duty to let the millions of unemployed French workers know.

 

Do you speak French ?

 

poorly, like most expats, however this is simply one reason why hundreds of thousands of early retirees have rejected 'paradise' and returned to the UK.

 

This could well be the main reason SH. If you go to live in another country then you have an obligation to learn the language of the country you go to. For point of comparison, the only time I use English is on here.

 

The Italians are revving up for a fight with the EU after calling the European Commission leaders the 'enemies of Europe'. It makes Brexit seem rather sedate.

 

"As we leave the EU, we should do so as one nation." So says the DUPs Arlene Foster today. However 77% of English Tory voters would be quite happy to dump them if they got in the way of Brexit no matter what was the resulting chaos and break up of the Union. Similar numbers thought the same about Scotland. And I thought this was supposed to be the Conservative and Unionist Party. Maybe those of us who believe that there is something good about cooperating with our neighbours have become the true nationalists, while those who think as these Tories, have become the Conservative and Disunion Party.

 

Amazing how some people delight in fostering disunity eh... I am no longer reading our troll friends pumped up little projections but I can see everyone else's responses.
Very dangerous state of affairs being promulgated.. Russia on the borders of Europe must be rubbing their trigger happy hands. What we need more than anything nowadays is unity..

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First day back at Westminster, and we immediately see the huge split in the government over Brexit. Raab was taking questions, and put Baker in his place with an almighty put down, reminding him that they sat together on the front bench not so long ago. Redwood put in his usual comic performance that had many laughing at his zeal, while Clark asked a question that had Raaab turning over the pages of his brief at speed to see if there was any help in there. What was clear was the subtle, or was it really subtle, approaches to the moderates on the opposition benches. Help us, was the message from the government to the opposition, we are in a mess, and although there seem to be problems with the leader, you have more sensible MPs than we do at present.

 

Yeah I'm not in the least bit surprised. I still firmly believe we'll agree a deal with the EU so in that scenario they are going to need Labour MPs to support them in order to avoid a no deal. Obviously Labour backing a no deal will bring down the Government but if (and I know it's a very big if) a no deal results in immediate chaos and huge economic damage it will hurt Labour candidates as badly as Tory ones. They would have had the chance to save the UK from no deal and deliberately went against it. There are going to be plenty of opportunities to bring the Tories down this term - they'd be very ill advised to use a no deal vote to do it in my humble opinion.[/QUOTE]

 

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The position of some in the Labour Party may be to trigger a vote of no confidence, and a consequent election, under the impression that the EU. will allow an extension on the deadline to accomodate a General Election and possible new referendum. This is a dangerous gamble to play - I do not even know if the EU. can offer an extension because of the Euro elections in May, for which Britain's seats in the EU parliament have already been reallocated.

 

The position of some in the Labour Party may be to trigger a vote of no confidence, and a consequent election, under the impression that the EU. will allow an extension on the deadline to accomodate a General Election and possible new referendum. This is a dangerous gamble to play - I do not even know if the EU. can offer an extension because of the Euro elections in May, for which Britain's seats in the EU parliament have already been reallocated.[/QUOTE]

It has been said by several senior figures in the EU that should a major event, they described it as another referendum or general election, then the Article 50 date that the UK set could be put back for a period. Unspecified how long a period.

What we are seeing today, it changes daily, is the DUP threatening to vote against the budget at the end of the month if they don't get their way. They spent yesterday in Brussels and it appears they didn't like what they heard. If that happened it might be seen as a vote of no confidence in the government.

Reports now coming out that the backstop agreement has been sorted. To please the DUP it seems that more checks on goods will take place in the UK before sending them on to the EU. This is so that they can say the same checks take place between the mainland and NI. It is creating more and more regulation, but seems to imply that that the UK as a whole will stay in the customs union for an unspecified period. None of this will go down well with the ERG.

 

It has been said by several senior figures in the EU that should a major event, they described it as another referendum or general election, then the Article 50 date that the UK set could be put back for a period. Unspecified how long a period.

What we are seeing today, it changes daily, is the DUP threatening to vote against the budget at the end of the month if they don't get their way. They spent yesterday in Brussels and it appears they didn't like what they heard. If that happened it might be seen as a vote of no confidence in the government.

Reports now coming out that the backstop agreement has been sorted. To please the DUP it seems that more checks on goods will take place in the UK before sending them on to the EU. This is so that they can say the same checks take place between the mainland and NI. It is creating more and more regulation, but seems to imply that that the UK as a whole will stay in the customs union for an unspecified period. None of this will go down well with the ERG.[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong here Frenchie. Ideally I would like to stop the whole thing of Brexit, and, ideally, I would like a Labour Government. But more than these I want Britons to be able to live together afterwards. A hard, or no deal, Brexit will forcibly drag the youth of the country, together with Scotland and Northern Ireland out of the EU. against their will, and could even lead to the break up of the UK. A second referendum (if won by remain) would leave a sizable minority of brexiters believing they have been robbed and sharpening their knives for the next move - it could even lead to Ukip becoming a major force in Westminster. How could a second referendum which remain won by about 52%-48% be taken seriously by the EU ? How can they know that such a situation is stable enough to last the test of time ? A patched up agreement would be mumbled about by many but would, at least ensure us a fair amount of transition time during which we would still be in the EU. but just not voting for anything. This time is of imeasurable importance also to ex pats who would remain citizens of the EU until the end of 2020 - thus giving them ample time to either make other arrangements, or to naturalize themselves in their adopted countries. The one thing I do not know is if Britain can actually stop Brexit altogether during a transition period (presuming that a deal can be reached).