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Messi and his pathetic no show in the Copa America

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. Bolton4Europe

    Bolton4Europe Active Member

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    Well done, highlight a couple of words from a long article while ignoring my long reasoning behind the choice and put a smiley face.

    Remember the words, 'it all depends on the individual'?

    Twat.
     
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  2. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    Yep!

    They build our hopes up and crush them!
     
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  3. Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH

    Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH New Member

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    hahaha look at all the jealousy! You cant base football on what happened in the past. Right now the stats show us as 4th in the world. Get over it!

    and roooooneeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy is on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  4. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    And yet we fall for it (almost) every two years...
     
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  5. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    Indeed.

    I think I shall go into every major tournament expecting to get beat so if we don't, it's a good tournament!

    <ok>
     
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  6. Alan

    Alan Well-Known Member

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    Is the OP being serious
     
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  7. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I just expect us to go out every time we meet a team ranked in the top 10 in the world. Works every time <ok>
     
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  8. Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH

    Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH New Member

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    god you lot are pessimistic misery guts.

    Arsenal fans fall for wengers bullshit every year that they can win a trophy

    Liverpool fans have been deluded for over 20 years about winning the prem.

    Leeds fans still think they are a big club.

    Just face it - England are one of the top 6 clubs in Europe along with France, Italy, Holland, Spain, Germany. Therefore we have a cracking chance of winning. Just because you lot are either haters or misery guts pessimists you wont accept it but its true. We have a chance and ROONEY is one of if not THE best player in the world.
     
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  9. Bolton4Europe

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    The fact that we are 4th in the world must be the most undeserving placement I have ever seen in my entire life of watching football. There are many 'smaller' teams that would bloody beat us if we played them.

    Let's look at the top 10, which are ******ed.

    For starters, Holland are above Spain. If any of you are clever enough to remember last year, Holland had to resort to kicking the **** out of Spain to try and claim victory in the 2010 World Cup final. Despite Robben missing the biggest ****ing sitter in the world, they lost in extra-time 1-0, and Spain won the world cup, and at the same time, beating Holland. So how the **** is Holland above Spain? The rankings are ****.

    Germany are well placed. They came into the semi-finals of the world cup, and were beaten by the best team in the world, Spain. Fair enough that Germany are third.

    4 England
    5 Uruguay
    6 Brazil
    7 Italy
    8 Portugal
    9 Argentina
    10 Croatia

    The only team I can say we have a good chance of beating there is Croatia, but even then they knocked us out of Euro 2008!

    Uruguay got to the semi finals, losing to Holland, who are at the top of the Fifa rankings. They, given the chance, would convincingly beat us so the reason why they are below us and not above is beyond me at this current moment.

    It would take a massive step up to try and beat Brazil, Italy, Portugal and Argentina at a neutral venue, and I currently think we are nowhere near capable of saying that we are BETTER than them. I would also like to say that a few teams such as France have recently beat us at Wembley and should be placed accordingly.

    All in all, looking at the rankings is like saying Norwich will win the Champions League next year.
     
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  10. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    I know Fat Sam has blinded your lot permanently to adore anti-football and hoofball but even I didnt bank on it being so serious as to pick Rooney over the best player from the best team in the world who are teaching teams every day how the game should be played.

    Messi is the better goalscorer
    Messi is better for assists
    Messi provides the greater contribution

    Some things are not just down to the individual, some things are just common sensee
     
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  11. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    What do you expect?

    England go into major tournaments expected to do well and we don't. We come up against a decent side and get exposed. Every time.

    Beating Bulgaria doesn't prove we are a top-quality international side. If we can do the same to the likes of Spain and Germany we would be a decent side. But we don't. And we won't for many years.
     
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  12. Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH

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    More pessimism

    Brazil and Argentina are blooming awful at the moment. Did you not see how dire they were at the copa america. PLus argie got thrashed worse than England in the WC. Croatia we hammered last time we met. Spain and Germany are better than us. Uruguay I reckon we could beat tbh. Holland are around the same. We drew with them. Italy and France are no great shakes. Portugal are doing worse than us at the minute.

    The only two teams defo better than us are Spain and Germany. Holland and Urugauay perhaps so. If winning qualification games is so easy why dont so many others have as many points as us. Stop being a biased ****er!
     
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  13. Bolton4Europe

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    1. 5-1.

    2. Messi scores in a league which is easier to score in than it is to score in the Premier League, which Rooney does very well. Internationally, they have scored the same goals to game.

    3. Everyone contributes for Barcalona, the way they press as a team and and pass as a team, obviously, Man Utd don't have that fluidcy yet they are working towards as you can see from some of their goals this season.

    4. It's opinion, not common sense.
     
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  14. Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH

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    2. Messi scores in a league which is easier to score in than it is to score in the Premier League, which Rooney does very well. Internationally, they have scored the same goals to game.

    Rooneys is better now mate
     
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  15. Bolton4Europe

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    Biased? I'm ****ing English you southern twat! I'm from the ****ing north, where we all go round singing ****ty vindaloo chants when the world cup is on in our northern accent singing 'En-ger-laaand'.

    We are not as good as Uruguay, are you bonkers?

    You say those teams where awful at the Copa America, we didn't ****ing qualify for our last Euro!
     
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  16. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    1- Irrelevant and childish

    2 - Better league claims are subjective crap

    3 - Messi was just as prolific before Barcas current style when under Rijkaard they were playing a midfield of Deco etc.

    4 - it is still common sense
     
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  17. Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH

    Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH New Member

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    That was nearly 4 years ago you plank. Our team is completely different! What a thick comment
     
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  18. Bolton4Europe

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    When you started going on about 'Fat Sam', how the **** is that relevant? Hypocritical or what?

    Subjective Crap? It's called debate.

    Show me stats and I'll believe you there.

    No it's not, it's opinion <doh>
     
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  19. Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH

    Whole-lot-of-Holt_HtH New Member

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    Southerners support their country better than Northerners who seem to enjoy whingeing and losing. Southerners get behind the lads!!!!!!
     
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  20. Bolton4Europe

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    3 years ago, and we didn't change the team much for the World Cup.

    We would defo get beat by Brazil and we will do when we play then in a friendly some time next year (opening of their new stadium for the WC 2014?)

    You seriously think we would beat Uruguay, Brazil and Argentina?
     
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