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The 2 AWOL Players

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  1. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Chelsea got no cash from Mutu as he declared himself bankrupt didn’t he?

    He went on to have a great career in Italy, cheeky ****er.
     
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  2. FTM Dave

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    It wasn't due to leaving the country mate, it was down to FIFA having about 5,000 levels of appeal (all of which Mutu lost) which made the thing drag on for years.
     
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  3. Burly Hurley

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    It was in the national press a few years ago. I'm just not sure if I got the details right though.
     
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  4. safcyellowbelly

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    I`d not expect much to happen immediately.

    Based on what the club statement says SAFC are saying he has broken his contract in a fundamental way (that`s what a repudiatory breach of contract is - the equivalent of in a more common scenario is an employer failing to pay its employees - that failure is a repudiatory breach of contract). The club has, rather than trying to make him remedy that breach, accepted it as sufficient to terminate the contract.

    The acceptance of a repudiatory breach of an employment contract is where the idea of "constructive dismissal" comes from. Generally run on the basis of making life at work intolerable...a breach of the obligation regarding trust and confidence owed by an employer to its employees...

    I`d guess that the basis of the deal whereby he was given the month off to sort himself out a club had clauses in it saying "you`ll need to be fit if you return" and "you`ve got until [a set date] to get back".

    We know he breached the date requirement and I guess the club have the data from the medical/fitness test to show he`s out of shape.

    I`d guess that if you add those to the statement of "I`m never wearing a Sunderland shirt again" you`ve got a half decent shout at the argument the club is going to run.

    Whether we sue him for the "lost value" I think is much more difficult - how do you value a footballer - the ultimate test is what someone is prepared to pay - the fact that we paid an over-inflated price is neither here nor there. That he`d been involved in 2 relegations (or was it 1) and was a League 1 standard player (because that was where he would have played for us) must have a significant impact on his true value. I`d guess there will be an amount of emails with his agent that would ultimately be disclosed to see what(if anything) other clubs have offered for him.

    From an SAFC perspective I`d not rush to sue him as I don`t see how we establish the amount of the loss. We will have 6 years to bring a claim though - no need to rush!

    That said if he sues (SAFC had no grounds to terminate my contract - I`m going to sue for lost wages) then I can very much see us using the valuation issue as a counterclaim in those proceedings (on a **** it - if we`re in court anyway let`s throw everything we`ve got at him - kind of basis).

    All of the above ignores any special rules in respect of the FA/FIFA/CAS etc...

    I`m sure that the club will have decent lawyers acting for them but equally that he`ll be able to afford some of his own...If Stewy D is reading this I`ll gladly take the job on (although I know **** all about sports law!).
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    Notice is the important word. He ain't sacked yet but should be in due course. There's protocol to follow like there is with everything. Not as simple ripping up his contract and saying piss off. His registration is an issue and it's outside a registration period. App in to Fifa, who govern all player registration, and they should release him with no quarrels, just have to wait a bit. Can't see Fifa blocking it as both parties want this. The civil matter of recouping some losses could take years though.

    Hope Fifa can sort this quickly as we really don't want this lingering.
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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  7. David Moyes' Stupid Face

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    <laugh> N'Dickhead F3, Djilibellend A1 <diva><diva>

    What do I win? :huh:
     
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  8. marcusblackcat

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    Based on his history, how much we paid for him, and his ability, that's probably about right. Presumably he's got a rating of one for attitude and application.
     
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  10. E.T. Fairfax

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  11. E.T. Fairfax

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    Didier Ndong reportedly fears being arrested should he return to Sunderland
    The Black Cats midfielder has been AWOL since May and with a move away looking unlikely, his future remains up in the air


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    AWOL Sunderland midfielder Didier Ndong is reportedly afraid to return to Sunderland because of the possible repercussions he will face.

    Ndong failed to report back to pre-season training in the summer as he sought a move away from Wearside.

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    Despite Sunderland accepting a bid from Serie A side Torino and reported interest from Benfica, neither move materialised and Ndong remains contracted with the Black Cats.

    Dylan McGeouch has yet to hit top form but Jack Ross says it will be worth the wait

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    Didier Ndong of Sunderland (Image: Getty Images Europe)
    Ndong’s team-mate Papy Djilobodji also went AWOL and after he returned to Sunderland out of shape earlier this month, the club served him notice that his employment with the club will be terminated.

    It’s unclear whether Ndong will receive the same punishment but according to a ‘source close to the player’, he is afraid to return to the club because of the possible sanctions he will face.

    The Black Cats’ record signing even fear he will be arrested for not returning and plans to commission a London-based negotiator to mediate with manager Jack Ross about the best possible solution.


    “In reality, Didier Ndong is afraid of reprisals and other sanctions that may be imposed on him by the club,” the source told Gabonese outlet iSport.









    “He even thinks he will be arrested at the airport because he has left the club for almost seven months.

    “Remember that the club is very up against him, including some of the audience. So it’s hard for him right now.

    “For this purpose, we commissioned a London-based negotiator to negotiate with Jack Ross , the team’s manager, for his return to the Black Cats. We hope they understand.”

















































     
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  12. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    Why the **** would he be arrested?

    <laugh>
     
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  13. marcusblackcat

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    So next time I'm off work longer than expected, I won't go back or contact them in case I get arrested? ****ing hell

    Are his representatives really that thick?
     
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  14. gelders pie

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    They always used to accuse footballers of being thick. Case closed in this instance .
     
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    I believe its a criminal offence to impersonate a footballer <laugh>
     
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  16. Burly Hurley

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    <laugh><laugh>
     
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  17. dansafcman

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    Trying to guess a potential reason

    Visa/work permit no longer valid as he hasn't fulfilled his contract ?
     
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  18. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    I think @Dead Woman Walking was closer to the mark. Someone is stupid but we don't know if its the player or the agent yet.
     
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  19. dansafcman

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    Oh I agree

    Just whatever it is, hope it helps us get rid of him quicker
     
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  20. E.T. Fairfax

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    Didier Ndong has no future at Sunderland despite arriving back in North East
    By Keith Downie
    Last Updated: 24/09/18 12:26pm


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    Didier Ndong has no future at Sunderland - Sky Sports News has been told
    Didier Ndong has no future at Sunderland despite finally arriving back in the North East after a four-month absence, Sky Sports News has been told.

    The Gabon midfielder was pictured at Newcastle Airport on Saturday and Sunderland have been advised he is on Tyneside somewhere but are not expecting him back at training.

    The 24-year-old failed to show at the club's training ground on Monday, on what was a scheduled day off for the players.


    Ndong had been quoted in a Gabon news outlet over the weekend as saying he would take a pay cut to play again this season for Sunderland - that after his last realistic escape route of 2018 closed when the Portuguese transfer window shut on Friday.

    Sunderland's club-record £13.6m signing had earlier failed to show for pre-season after a £7m transfer to Torino fell through after he failed to agree personal terms.


    Former team-mate Papy Djilobodji also refused to show for pre-season training and when he did finally appear earlier this month he was put through a fitness test and sacked when the results were deemed unsatisfactory.

    The fact Sunderland waited for £8m-signing Djilobodji to finally appear before informing him his contract would be terminated suggests a similar situation could arise with Ndong.

    Sacking Ndong would mean writing off a transfer fee, but would remove him from the club's wage bill.

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    Sunderland terminated the contract of Papy Djilobodji
    Seb Ewan of Sport Invest is reported to be representing the player, but when contacted by Sky Sports News Ewan said he is aware of the player but he is not his agent.

    Two weeks ago, club owner Stewart Donald claimed he had no idea where Ndong was but is now aware he is back in the North East.

    Manager Jack Ross said: "There has been no contact with me. In terms of me having him back in the playing squad, we have gone a long way beyond that point, I think."
     
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