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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    That’s excuse no. 3 from the Brexiters Handy Guide to Why Brexit Was a ****up
     
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  2. dbc

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    Yes you may have stated earlier the whole of Europe but that doesn't mean it's correct.

    As I stated earlier it's the whole of Europe that is in the EU or EEA. Albania is in the continent of Europe and here are the roaming charges for visiting Albania http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Roaming_and_International/Mobile_Roaming?content_aid=1214306372561 If we leave the single market we will more than likely leave the DSM and then we'll lose the benefit.
     
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  3. dbc

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    I prefer my left wing politicians to actually be left wing thank you very much.
     
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  4. Ringo Lion

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    Well for now i'll give Albania a swerve dbc and if due to Europe's pettiness they chuck us out of the DSM I would expect the 65 million British visitors to Europe to at least half in the near future, as would European visitors the the UK.
    Personally I would see that as an act of aggression and declare war on Europe.
     
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  5. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Sounds reasonable to me
     
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  6. Ringo Lion

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    Everyone has their breaking point 2020<cheers>
     
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  7. dbc

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    You see you've gone arse about tit again. Europe are not chucking us out. We are leaving and currently asking to leave the single market.
     
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  8. dbc

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    But just to clarify you acknowledge that Albania is in Europe?
     
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  9. Ringo Lion

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    Well their football teams play in European competitions as do Israeli teams but officially they are middle east.
     
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  10. Ringo Lion

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    Europe need us more than we need them which is why they are making things so difficult hoping to grind us down, it doesn't help having so many treacherous lefties in our own backyard trying to throw a spanner in the works at every turn, how much has that cost us?
     
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  11. dbc

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    Well I'm sure even us treacherous lefties stand no chance when there are such well informed geographical geniuses on the other side...
     
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  12. Ringo Lion

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    Thats the thing with lefties they are more concerned with what's going on everywhere else rather than in their own country that they want to morph into something else, regaining our own sovereignty is your worst nightmare.
     
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  13. dbc

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    No I just don't believe the myth that we needed to regain our own sovereignty. We are a sovereign nation unlike the EU and parliament is the supreme law making authority in this country.
     
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  14. Whitejock

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    Don't know what the fuss is about re. roaming charges.

    I go Macedonia for at least a month every year. I have a dual sim phone, & it costs me £3 for a sim that gives me 6gb for a month, plus free calls & texts. I've never fully used it as wifi is almost universally available in bars & restaurants. Any UK calls I make, I use Messenger or Viber. There are loads of other internet-based apps too.

    US is a different matter. You'll pay $25+ for a sim there, but still worth it as that's about the international roaming charge for 2mb (not gb!!) of data.

    I don't know what all the fuss is about. There are more important benefits / penalties to be agreed before they look at mobile phone roaming.

    The thing that I really love about Brexit (and there's not a great deal to like) is that the 'gentry' farmers are cacking themselves as they won't be getting paid handsomely for having empty fields. Who'd have thought that a farmer would have to grow things to make a living, eh? :)
     
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    If they really are cacking themselves then that's strange because prior to the referendum every farm I drove past had a great big 'vote leave' placard on display
     
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  16. Whitejock

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    I think we're actually in agreement here.

    Just to be clear, you missed out the word 'gentry' (as in 'gentry' farmers) when quoting me - i.e. the gits that own land for the kudos, the titles, & the EU bungs. The ones that wouldn't know where to start. Regular farmers are being stung by the EU, and they were never part of my statement. Personally, I'd love to reverse it & penalise the gentry farmers for every empty field they have, rather than pay them!
     
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    I spend about 6 weeks every year in SE Asia and have to do the whole buying and swapping the sim card (which is easy in Hong Kong and Thailand and a real ****ing pain in India). Just keeping your own phone and using it as normal is a lot easier especially if you say live in Northern Ireland and you're talking about a country that is literally 2 feet away or when you're only going away to France/Spain for a day or two.

    But obviously if we're leaving an institute that is costing us a fortune and massively curbing our liberties I could understand these are minor grievances but as every projection has us losing money and as the leak today shows the Civil contingency secretariat, the department who deals who deal with emergency planning (like floods, terrorism, nuclear accident etc etc) are now leading on helping departments prepare for no deal and that the costs incurred for no-deal should come from normal spending (so cuts basically) then it's probably time to ask people if this is really what they voted for as I really don't remember seeing any of that on the side of the bus

     
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  18. Whitejock

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    I blame Cameron for this mess, and he should be strung up for it (and Blair too, for any number of other reasons). He convinced his party to have the referendum, which was essentially a yes/no vote on a principle. I accept that his party helped him along with this, and that the opposition were unusually quiet on the matter, but it was Cameron who made this mistake. There should have been a statement along with the announcement, making it clear that if there was a YES vote, then it would only be advisory, and the execution decision would and could only be taken once the details of the deal were known (either by another referendum or in Parliament).

    It's very simple. Imagine the wife agrees with you in principle that it's a good idea to buy a car, and, given her poor knowledge on the subject, only offers the caveat that it should be silver, and be no more than five years old. Then you turn up in a 4yo silver Rolls Royce, when she was thinking mini. Would she really accept that she voted YES to a RR? That's the situation we find ourselves in atm, imo. We voted in principle, not in practical terms based on known detail. Big mistake.
     
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    Just out of interest do you have a job where you're doing very well out of our tax money going to the EU.and you didn't see it on the bus,because it shouldn't have been too much for the spineless remainers to accept they lost.
     
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  20. dbc

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    More a case of you promise a new Mercedes then turn up in an Austin Brexit

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