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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Beef, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Indeed, what's particularly concerning is why it wasn't forseen how the crowd would move and why it wasn't communicated either. Also speculation that a gate was shut with police saying they believe it was open the whole time, hope that doesn't turn out to be true.

    Lucky that it seems no one was seriously injured.
     
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    I was hoping to watch Kazakstan v England women, but BBC having technical problem. England winning 2-0 at moment, but qualified for WC anyway after beating Wales.
     
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    Meh, I'm boycotting the England team. I couldn't give a fig what they do.
     
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    England women won 6-0
     
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    I heard they think the same about you Laps!
     
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    Twatbeard pulls out of England’s squad.
     
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    I thought he'd be looking for minutes/seconds.
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Seems to have been a big issue in Spain recently... their laws don't exactly help.
     
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  13. Saintmagic

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    He paid more tax in 3 years than the vast majority do for their entire lives, I can see why you would want to be paying "less" if you were advised you could. His "less" would still be considerably more than the vast majority of people
     
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  14. fran-MLs little camera

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    People like Mourinho have tax advisors who make these suggestions about tax loopholes. Their clients get caught out if the goal posts are moved....or the advisors were wrong. Tax avoidance isn't necessarily the same as tax evasion....tax evasion is doing jobs in hand and not declaring the money. Lots do that....just a question of scale.
    I do agree however with the idea that you can have enough money and your good reputation is worth more than what you can squirrel away.
     
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  15. ImpSaint

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    It isn't really that simple. Clubs at the lower level can't afford the vast policing charges. Police charge the clubs per the numbers needed inside the stadium. They don't pay for the police in the town or vacinity, just within the ground. So clubs lower down that are always counting the pennies have a battle to get approval for the allocations unless they have a "fixed."

    The arguments are based on clubs not paying for the extra police in the town/city centre. It is a silly argument really because the town/city benefits financially from the extra spend yet no-one is suggesting the club get a cut of that so in reality the extra police are there to cater for money that goes into the local economy outside of the football club.

    I think Pompey fans are too used to the Prem/higher level. Down in L1 and below policing costs are a big concern and the police/local government aren't exactly helpful in seeing that despite extra fans bringing money in outside of the club (pubs restaurants, hotels and other tourist avenues of money) they just argue about who pays.

    Lincoln are in a strange position at the moment where we would rather give the opposition the minimum so we can get more home fans in the same stand with segregation rather than give the whole stand away. however we can't for clubs that might bring the 10% (1000 fans.) The club have to wait for the opposing club to sell their tickets before they know how many they can sell to their own fans in that stand. This often means we don't sell out because their is a belief that the home ends are always sold out and so it is hard for the club to spread the word that there are tickets available.

    Other clubs are reversed from that situation. They aren't filling their stadiums and would like to sell more than 10% to the opposition. Like Ipswich giving us 4,400 in the FA cup, Notts County giving us 4,500 last season etc. However even on both of those occasions the initial allocation was much lower and further allocations in the league are very late "to the market" because of arguments discussions with police.

    For example in that FA cup run Burnley and Ipswich didn't sell out their stadiums and gave Lincoln the full allocations that the police would allow. For the Ipswich tie it was the first time they had reached the 3rd round for ages and we could have sold 8,000 tickets. Ipswich were asked for more tickets but the Police refused more. So there were parts of the stadium empty. Same for Burnley. Might sound ridiculous but there was actually a black market for tickets for those 2 games which the fans themselves countered on facebook. People were buying up tickets and advertising them on Lincoln forums at 2, 3x face value and police got involved there.

    So late tickets to the market is often because of problems with the clubs, police and local authorities not being able to agree on things. Normally the initial allocations will be available early (up to 1 month dependent on fixture clashes*) but further allocations can be released very late.

    *There is also the reality that in L1/L2 the fixture list changes constantly because of participation in 3 cups (FA cup, League Club, Chekatrade) and thus progress in one (or all) of these can completely change the fixture list. Clubs can't really sell too far ahead because winning 1 cup game can change 2 future fixtures (if replays are ruled into a competition.) Also remember that TV might decide they want to broadcast a cup game and move it which then might move the fixtures either side of that cup game.

    As an example as a home fan the only tickets available (released) for Lincoln at the moment are Crawley at home on Saturday and Macclesfield away on 15th. No tickets home or away are released yet for any game further than 10 days away!!!
     
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  17. fran-MLs little camera

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    I am skinny....for a hippopotamus :(
     
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    Nothing like the same. Anyone can avoid tax, I do it everyday by choosing not to smoke or drink. Evasion, on the other hand, means jail time.
     
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    well played young man
     
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