Suarez Now the window has shut the guy need to be given a new MASSIVE contract I have read in the press today that Torres is on about £210k per week,Suarez is on about £71k per week I would be drawing up a contract and speaking to Luis and his advisor NOW I would give a 6/7 yr deal on at least £150k a week possibly more ,with a £120-£150m buy out clause.You cant muck about.Sooner or later someone is gonna come callin, we have got to make impossible for him to leave,and if he does,it has got to be very,very,very,very expensive (World Record Bid-Minimum).If Liverpool want success ,this HAS to happen
If he's the type of player who'll leave at the first sight of more money, he's welcome to leave and we'll replace him. Just like we've replaced everyone else. DC/KK and the board won't scramble to double his wages to hope to keep him long term. I'd like to think he believes in what we're doing and he'll be rewarded in due course though...maybe next summer a bumper new deal if he/we perform.
he's on a 6.5 year deal since jan so..... its already sorted! lets let him play off two years then reward him.... big shock he's won nothing yet!
Let them do it there own way. FSG they have spent a load of money, and have also managed to save a bundle too. Liverpools wage bill is possibly the 10th highest now, it was 5th. We're lean and mean, the squad only contains players that Kenny will actually use, with the exception of Brad Jones.
He's had half a season, and you want Kenny to reward him? How do you think that'll effect the other players who feel they've put just as much work in? He's on 90k a week now, the earliest we'll see any sort of contract extension for him will be january, and I really can't see them offering him more than 120k. Don't forget, we got into a terrible situation with inflated wages etc... last season; we don't want to be down the line in 2 years time with 5 players all over 100k a week.
Agreed. He's on an excellent wage and has a very long contract. At the moment, I don't see the need to renew his contract.
at best this should be based on performance, if we get the cl again then some guys might get rewarded, some like gerrard are way over paid now... lets see how it goes.
£210k per week would break our wage structure. Captain Fantastic is on £110k per week and everyone else on less than that. FSG, KD, and DC have done a lot of work in reducing wages as a whole, and with one broad stroke, you'll up everyone's salary in the team to be the same scale as £210k per week. That would be a step backwards.
I can see Suarez forcing a move in a couple of years, ala Berbatov. He's already admitted he would like to play at Barca one day, and if he continues to perform, whilst "only" being paid 70k pw, you'll have Man City and Chelsea waving 150-200k pw + Champions League football at him soon enough. Not sure Liverpool can afford to match the kind of money he could be making elsewhere, and his agent will be making him acutely aware of this every transfer window.
What Im saying is, in the last few years,as JW Henry said the other day, we have let our best players go ( Masch,Alonso,Torres), and kept our lesser ones We MUST reverse that trend,we MUST keep our best players,if Liverpool managed to get him to sign a contract with a £100m get out clause, but that meant payin him £150k a week, I would accept that, in fact I would snatch his hand off.Its obvious hes gonna be one of the PL/Worlds biggest players in the next few years We have got to make very difficult for our best players to leave,cos sooner or later teams are gonna come knockin again.You may say I am bein a doom monger,I am not,Iam bein realistic,I am sayin learn from mistakes in the past,and make sure they dont happen in the future.Take the steps required to keep our best players. That means gradual constant team improvement,qualify for CL,buy new big name players every season,pay our ELITE players a competitive wage,and if required start puttin get out clauses into contracts,or any other means to make our best players stay
From what I read up on Fenway Sports Group, there isn't a chance of Suarez getting a weekly pay-rise, not in January, not in 2 years......not ever. Its not a policy they implement. They however reward their staff for success in bonus payments. Liverpool will have to have success and Suarez will have to be part of that success in order to get monetary reward, the same applies to the rest of the playing staff. It seems fair, Its both motivational and it keeps players hungry, its like holding out a carrot in order to get the best out of your employees. They will be rewarded when FSG get results. In my opinion thats how it should be.
Humm. Buy out clauses? We're not in Spain! I wouldn't mention a new contract to him, he's settled, why make him think about it and make him feel he is in control of the club. Should his head turn in a year or so, then we negotiate.
Sorry, I can't see FSG giving Suarez a weekly pay-rise when he hasn't earned it. He will not get a weekly pay-rise. Its not their policy, they did not implement such a policy with the Red Sox, I cannot see them doing so with Liverpool. They have a reward scheme which is based on success and success to Liverpool is trophies. In other words, the players will be rewarded when they make FSG money, the club itself will be rewarded because a chunk of that will be used to sign players.
You don't give somebody a pay rise unless they ask for it, or a club comes calling offering an obscene wage rise. He's on a lot of money now and has a long contract.. he doesn't need anybody but his advisor telling him what he should be earning. How much was he on at Ajax? I'm sure he received a slight wage rise when he came to LFC. All is fine, move along
No point as previously said. He's done nothing for us yet... Lots of good performances but if people think they can earn £150k without winning trophies then they are never going to put the extra work in. I'm happy fpr incentive payments like if we get into Champ League then they can have a slight increase or a 1 off payment etc. He's on a long term deal anyway so lets give it a few years before any sort of renewal is talked about. Also what's the whole obsession with a buy out clause? We don't HAVE to have one. It's only an obligation in Spain and that's why you see players with but out clauses of £200mil just so clubs don't automatically trigger them. Not having one puts you in a stronger position as you don't have to accept any bid, no matter what the value.
If that is their policy then it's massively risky for the long term stability of the club. This policy coupled with their "we only want players who want to be here" policy, means Suarez could conceivably turn around this time next summer and hand in a transfer request, which the club would, under their own policy, would have to accept (i.e. he doesn't want to be here anymore). This leaves Man City/Chelsea/Real/Barca (His agent is Pep's bro) etc to come in offering him more than double his current (potentially permanent) 70K pw. And surely, if he is "world-class", doesn't he deserve parity with players of a similar standing? You couldn't blame him for seeking it elsewhere though.
the "we only want players who want to be here" policy is practiced by every top club- are you telling us that united want to keep players that want to leave
I have a couple of questions for people, what do people think I know it is alleged to be FSG/LFC s policy not to have people on big wages,and apparently will let players go if they dont want to be here 1. Is it possible in this day and age(Chelski,Citeh,United) to WIN the Prem and not have at least 2 or 3 players on over £100k a week 2. If Liverpool let players go who dont want to be at the club, is that condusive to winning trophies My point is if LFC and there financing can afford it ( with merchandise ,etc) we should have big wagers on the wage bill.If you dont,we wont have the best,and we wont bl$$fy win.Simple.But only Elite players of which Suarez is one,Gerrard I would say isnt.I would say LFC this eason without Suarez this season would be 20m pts worse off,I think we would 5pts worse off with Gerrard I actually think if the player where good enough LFC/FSG would have no problem paying someone £150k a week plus, you cant just say it aint our policy,if you have that sort of poilcy, you probably aint gonna win
Personally, I don't think players compare their salaries to players at other clubs. They tend to compare them to players at their own club. That was the reason Nasri left Arsenal - he wanted pay parity with Fabregas and Arsenal wouldn't give it to him. That was also the source of Utd's problems with Rooney - he wanted his salary to be much larger than anyone else's at the club to reflect the fact that he was the most important player. Likewise with Cole at Arsenal, Meireles, Eto'o and lots of other players who move due to wages - it's not the absolute amount they get, it's the desire to be paid what they believe they are "worth" to the team. The only problem you may get with Suarez in that area is that he is now almost certainly your most important player, and if he doesn't know it his agent will be sure to point it out to him. So it's likely to be only a matter of time before he demands a contract that is bigger, or at least as big, as Gerrard's, although if you're lucky it won't happen until FSG initiate new contract negotiations in a year or so. It'll be interesting to see what the board does then, after all Arsenal stuck to their guns over Nasri and look where it got them, whilst Utd raised Rooney's wages and got the league and CL final. Of course if he decides he wants to go to a club like Barca or Real for footballing reasons then that's a different matter entirely. But I've rarely seen a club's highest earning player request a transfer with the main reason being wages. Yes. Utd won the league last year with Rooney on approx £200k per week and Rio on about £110k a week, with Vidic, Berbatov and Nani the next highest on about £90k a week so it is possible, given that Rio played less than half the games last season. The main thing, as I said above, is the wage structure. As long as you can keep your most important player happy with a reasonable salary, everyone else benchmarks themselves to him. Arsenal could also have won the league last year with just Fabregas on around £120k a week - their problem wasn't a lack of good players it was a lack of players with heart and balls, neither of which translate into particularly high wages. The problem comes when you break that wage structure for a new player, and everyone else wants their salary to go up accordingly. That, imo, is the main reason Utd couldn't agree wages with Sneijder - if we gave him £250k a week then Rooney would want more and so would everyone else, and our total wage bill would jump by around 20%. Yes, if they really, really want to go. If it's a case of they want an additional £10k a week, then see the examples of Nasri and Rooney above, and how they worked out for Arsenal and Utd.
United have 3 or 4 players on over £100k a week,why 1.Cos they can afford it 2.They want the best players and they wanna keep um Wayne Rooney,United backed down on Rooney and gave him what he wanted,and in hindsight it wa the rightbthing to do.If Rooney had left,and exodus could have started IMO LFC wages should be £150k Suarez, Gerrard Reina £100k, everyone else max £70k
