Off Topic UK / EU Future

I have just had a great trip across Eastern Europe
Hungary
Serbia
Bulgaria
Rumania

No problems anywhere apart from a one hour border control in Serbia..... the shape of things to come?

 

Welcome back I think we'll be ok on border controls as it's not in anyone's interests to make it too complex - then again there do seem to be some who are hell bent on making it as complicated as is humanly possible. Small government indeed....

 

I have Serbian passport stamps now... maybe I can start collecting?

 

The Telegraph is running an article today suggesting that global central banks will sell off £100 billion of UK bonds in the event of a no deal. The effect of this could spell disaster for the value of the pound. Little wonder that Rees-Mogg and Redwood are telling people to get out of sterling.

 

Thanks for the advice Dan, I've just joined the Conservative party for the first time. Hopefully they can wait three months before deciding the new Tory leader. A Brexiteer is a shoe-in. I'm just hoping Cologne doesn't now mention party political membership again. shhh.... he might not notice!!

 

Did they throw out the red carpet for you SH ? I mean new members are so rare these days. With so few members you might actually change the 'average age of members' figure - 75 ? at the last reckoning

 

No, there are lots of Brexiteers joining now, they need young vibrant new blood like mine!! I'll be be holding fund raising soirees in the new house next summer. I could be the key to JRM, Boris and Gove leading us all soon.

 

This is of course the danger of a party with shrinking membership figures, which is getting older by the day. They become open to right wing entryism, and possible takeover. Which Labour (with 700,000 members) do not need to worry about.

 

Momentum has ruined the Labour Party already.

 

I am delighted that after ridiculing everyone on here whose party lost at the recent election.. you are finally deciding to stand up be counted ...and lose.... quite soon....

 

As far as I know Momentum has a membership of around 25,000 - which, related to a party of 700,000 members, makes up only one in 28 of all members. How does this constitute a takeover ?

 

Don't bank on it, there is no sign yet of a serious challenge to the Tories superiority. The LP should be 15 point ahead at this stage. The anti semite row within the LP rumbles on with growing criticism of Corbyn. He has been described as the 'most offensive politician since Enoch Powell'. There is a growing petition for his resignation. Is this the bunch you are relying on to unseat the Tories?

 

Momentum has wormed its way into the National Executive Committee and on local branch committees ready to expel or shun those moderates that have enjoyed electoral success in the past. It is also promoted by the leader and shadow chancellor as well the person that controls the pursestrings, McCluskey.

 

If you ever get round to being a full active member of your party SH. That is, more than just being there to get a vote, or glue posters. You will, one day, be expected to canvass for the party. In which case you will be expected to convince people on doorsteps, or on the street, exactly what your party has to offer - not retreat into permanent soundbites about the opposition. Maybe you could practice here ?

 

I can assure you I will not be door knocking. I would expect any sensible Tory looking for support to use the lack of any credible opposition as a good reason to carry on the long control of the Conservatives. Corbyn is currently the Tories no 1 asset. Manna from heaven, the very angry Jewish would say.

 

It would be expected that you would spend more time talking about your own party than about the opposition. If all you can do is slag off the opposition then this really is project fear. It shows me that Corbyn is on the right track when the media have to constantly resort to crucifying his person, and misquoting everything he says. It shows me that somebody is very scared, and that is a good sign.

 

It is not the media but members of his own party he is upsetting as well as most of the Jewish community. He has shown rank incompetence dealing with the Jewish issues. Notwithstanding, please kindly keep the fool in place.

Pointing out political opponents's weaknesses has been employed for hundreds of years.

 

Has Barnier started to crack?

 

I agree that Corbyn has not handled these accusations well - he has been far too defensive. It is patently obvious that having the freedom to describe a nation which practices Apartheid, as persuing racist policies, is not racist. It is obvious that in a World where Netanyahu can describe Iran as behaving like Nazis that Israel, also, does not have immunity from such a charge. Why do we have a special code on what is considered anti semitic ? Over and above those laws currently in place protecting minorities. Corbyn should go more on the offensive on this.

 

That's a great point and worthy of serious debate