So long as he keeps ****ing up he will attract criticism and give the Defoe thing a rest will ya Mr ****ing Perfect. If only we were all as clever and witty and informed as you eh? Not.
I'm chuffed with the signing of Bendtner, I think he's quality and I admit I was wrong as I didn't think we'd bring anyone in. The Bendtner deal fits the bill perfectly for me. With Regard to Bruce I'm still in the same mindset (just slightly leaning to the BIB side) and this could go either way depending on the run of games coming up.
That's just it Cestria..You are saying that we only got him after Stoke rejected him, but you don't supply any evidence to back up this claim...It could be that Stoke spoke to him and he rejected them in favour of us..Who Knows eh?..... as you stated, you most certainly did champion the merits of Bendtner, but now we have him you then choose to pour cold water on the deal. Also, you say that Bruce has had eight months to replace Bent, and the fact that he hasn't, in your eyes, makes him a failure...I would argue that goal poachers of his calibre are as rare as hens teeth, and managers could look for eight years never mind eight months and not find another like him...
Once again agree with most of what you say Cest. Whatever the actual ins and outs of the Bendtner deal, I think we got the better one of two, I would have prefered some buy out clause in place though. As £10 mill for a 31 year old Crouch was obscene, I would have took Crouch a couple of years ago, not at 31 though. Now is the time for Bruce to get the best out of what we have. Whether he can or not is to be seen.
No-one is sayimg they were but you likewise dont know they were not either. The fact remains its the way we have conducted this pant ****ting last minute scamble again, for a player that was so obviously not our target 24 hours ago and the lack of any kind of coherent strategy for buyomng players for positions. We needed a striker/goal poacher not a targetman. We got Bendtner as an after thiught to get ANYONE in and save face. I like Bendtner and hope he does well but he wasnt brought here in any kind of planned out strategy by Bruce so dont even try to pretend that was the case.
As i mentioned on another thread the only dissapointment for me is not signing Bendtner permanently, he is a cracking player and if you look at the views of the Arsenal fans they would rather have kept him !. If he does really well, like Welbeck, then the gooners may want him back or he moves on somewhere else for big money and we may not be able to compete. Then we are back to square one...looking for another 20 goals a season man !.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport...to_run_rule_over_arsenal_s_bendtner_1_3731381 Well according to the Sunderland Echo Bruce has been tracking Bendtner for 10 days and spoke to Wenger about him after the Derby defeat. Doesn't sound like a desperate "who's left! who can we get!" panic buy.
If he was a true all summer target, then why did it take up until the last few hours of the window to get him then if it were not a face saving exercise. I would have been extremely happy to go for the lad back in January. If you want to check my posts, I said so back then and again earlier this month after a lad at work, who is an Arsenal fan, spoke very highly of him. If we had been sniffing, or enquiring or making a bid since the 1st of August, I would concede he was a long term target and good management but we not and that is why it is so obvious he was a last minute, panic grab, anyone available will do bit of business from Bruce. It hasn’t been thought out, planned, or targeted at any time before yesterday.
Bendtner will probably never be a 20 goals a season man, but he may go some way to make Gyan one. 20 goals in 38 games, so better than 1 in 2 games isnt easy, and not many players around that can do that consistently (Bent cant even do it consistently, he has only done it twice).
Think there is more chance of Bendtner doing this than Gyan !...he just doesn't look interested, i ain't a fan of Gyan as most of you know but now that the window has shut and he's still here, i will support him !.
So why wait until the last minute then? Nothing has changed for Arsenal to warrant them holding on to a player that has been toiuted as leaving since January. Why not, if he really was the man for the job, make the offer weeks ago and have him in for the cup game or better still the derby game. Plus, unfortunatley, the Sunderland Echo is merely a voice piece for the club and has again been used to support an under fire manager by prin ting thsi completely bogus story. PS - It was reported on Sky yesterday that Bendtners dad (and agent) was at Stoke City as well BEFORE we became involved.
Ah cest - I've got a lot of time for you mate and even though I don't always share your opinions you always put them across well. Regarding this, our side has created in excess of 20 goalscoring opportunities (good crosses into the box) so far this season and scored just once - to me that's not bad tactics, just bad finishing - just my opinion though mate. Against Newcastle we created chance after chance in the first half and had nearly 70% possession - we dominated them more than I can ever remember - but just couldn't finish. Gyan at the start of last season would have bagged a couple but he looked way off the pace tpo knock any of them in
great idea Cest, so why dont you? A well worded argument Cest but how exactly did he **** up yesterday, it is yesterdays transfer window we are talking about.ee No Cest, people who dont agree labled in the Bruce in happy clapper gang and this is exactly the sort of negative spin I was talking about with all other views thrown aside. I'm off to happier threads now Cest.
We've been interested in Bendtner since last season, in no way was this a panic purchase. He is a way better bet than £10million for ****ing Crouch, no question. Bruce knows the lad, and has seen fit to sign him up a second time, i trust that he knows a player, even if he is a 'position dyslexic'. This will be a good, shrewd move, and the money we know is there, confirmed by the Crouch bid, BEFORE raising £3million for Anton and saving wages, can be usd in January if required. I'd imagine Bendtner is on a canny wage, maybe this is what caused the delays, maybe we needed the Anton deal done, makes perfect sense to me.
My opinion is that Bruce probably has got the man he wanted as we have (papertalk) been in for him in the past. Bendtner would not have been my first choice but he is wearing our colours now and as long as he does his bit then i'l be proud to have him in the team. I am slightly more miffed than others are in certain signings/decisions Bruce has made. He is unsure what to do about Gordon due to his injuries which leaves us with a bairn, who is a decent keeper but not ready yet(imo) and a championship player signed on a free. Now to me this has been a mistake on Bruce's part when one of the best stoppers in the game in Given was very available and probably very willing to come back to us. My other issue is his insistence on playing his 4-5-1 formation knowing fine well we have no one who can lead the line as a lone striker. Our greatest performance last season was Chelsea where if im not wrong he put out an attacking 4-4-2 and we played them off the park! These issues aside I will give Bruce my 100% backing without getting on his back (too much). This is HIS team and he will succeed or fail with it. A decent team he has built but I do fear his tactics will let him/us down. I'm keeping the faith
Sorry BB but I dont see how you can say he has been a long term target at all, otherwise we would have gone for him immedialtely at the start of the window. You dont leave your number one target until the last day of the window to make a bid mate, thats what you do to a 3rd or 4th choice target as a last gasp throw of the dice. As I have said (over and over again) its not the signing that is wrong (he is a good player for us IMO) but its the amateurish way the deal was rushed through to try and save Bruces face this morning.
But i have offered arguments to the contrary but ok then. You say the Bruce sold the player, as far as I am aware, he was in a Brimingham Hotel Room before the club even knew what was going on, he wanted away in the summer to Turkey but the club, including Bruce twisted his arm to stay, for most of the start of that season, he just didnt look that interested to be playing for us. So we sold him as there wasnt much more the Club could do, whether thats Bruce or Quinns decision though or a joint one I am not sure, but I have no idea how you can be say damn sure it was all Bruce. Cisse didnt go anywhere, Helmes didnt go anywhere, were they even up for grabs? Honda didnt go anywhere (that I am aware of) was he even up for grabs. We tried for Crouch, but he is 31, and 10 million for a 31 year old is just a tad high, I also read his hold up with Stoke was for image rights and money, sorry but if he is more interested in that, than actually playing week in week out, Stoke can have him. Most teams do business in the last week of the transfer window, the players we did get early were youngters with potential, free agents, Wiser players who were surpless to requirements with their other club, if we didnt get them when we did, someone else would have done. Getting a replacement for Bent was never ever ever going to be an easy task, and he has only ever got 20 goals in a season twice, 1st season with us, a season for Ipswich in the Championship over 46 games. And what if Bendtner was a last minute turn around, Crouch has already turned us down once before, I would much rather have Bendtner as a last minute decision on loan, than Samaras (as we were mentioned on getting him as you tend to believe all the reports from yesterday) last month and then nothing. You are entitled to your opinion, just dont get all bloody antagonistic and defensive when someone has a different view than you and call us all happy clappers.
