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  1. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Better than Jose?
     
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  2. Blueman

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    Getting ready to go to the in laws for a couple of hours and then back home for tea and footy.
     
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  3. gav81

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    Well yeah Keane left Sunderland 18th mid-season but it was him that got them promoted and kept them up the previous season in the first place. Ipswich were just a **** club that couldn't attract or keep the players he wanted.

    The managers you mention..

    Pochettino took Espanyol bottom of La Liga and was sacked. Simeone took River Plate, Argentina's biggest club, bottom of their Primera Division and walked out. Then there's Conte and Klopp - both relegated and sacked in their early careers. Gattuso was sacked twice at lower tier clubs before getting the Milan job. Even Ferguson finished one place above the relegation zone at St Mirren and was sacked.

    So you know, I'm not going to rule anyone out for not setting the world on fire at Sunderland or Ipswich :emoticon-0145-shake

    With Keane, the case isn't about his record but the character and values he shared with Fergie and which match United. He'd bring back the winning mentality, motivation, confidence, fear factor, standards, attacking football... the United way!
     
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    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Keane seems to me to a real manager , it's a shame that the clubs back the bloody Primadonna players !
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    He’s definitely Utd to the core. Even though he fell out with fergie.

    What about Giggs ?
     
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  6. gav81

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    Giggs is probably my favourite ever player, but watch his team talk when he was caretaker manager at the end of 13/14... too quiet, not a natural motivator or leader like Fergie and Keane.
     
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    Despite his reputation as a fire breather, Fergie was actually a very astute man manager. He knew instinctively how to handle players as individuals. Who needed an arm round the shoulder, who needed a kick up the arse.

    In my view, from what I’ve seen and gleaned, Keane doesn’t have that. He comes across as all hard arse. That won’t wash with a lot of today’s multi millionaire footballers.
     
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  8. Blueman

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    My favourite was Cloughie, though he wouldn't last 5 minutes today, too honest. Today's players wouldn't take it.
     
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  9. gav81

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    Keane is the same..


    Lots of examples like this but his media reputation precedes him. The only time anyone will have a problem with Keane is if he feels they aren't giving 100%, as it should be.
     
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    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, he did get us promoted. He also made some **** signings and wasted a lot of money!

    I was never a fan.
     
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  11. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    Just upped the pace and walked 6 miles today.

    Pushed the limit after just doing 2 and a half a day the last 2 weeks.
     
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  12. gav81

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    Who was better, Keano or Moysie?
     
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    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    The lass in the SoL canteen could've done a better job than Moyes!

    He was an unmitigated disaster!

    Keane wanted too much too quickly. Spent money like we were Man U. Some good, some bad and ended up losing support of the board.

    If he'd shown a little patience and savvy I think he could've gone on to be a great manager.
     
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  15. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    FFS Gav is here....

    Hope everyone is ready for Fossy style essays on Roy Keane.

    Hi Gav Mate <cheers>
     
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  16. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    I kinda invited him. :emoticon-0111-blush

    I think he should do a Keano thread. <diva>

    @gav81
     
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    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Yeah that would be good, I'm interested in Gav's views on Keano and what his fellow fans think.
     
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  18. gav81

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    So, better than Moyes! :1980_boogie_down:

    Not sure he lost support of the chairman - I read Quinn say he didn't want Keane to leave and spent the weekend trying to convince him to The official club statement even read they were reluctant to let him go. l take wanted success 'quickly' and 'spent money like Man U' as endorsements of his suitability for United!

    :biggrin:
     
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  19. gav81

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    Yes, I won't derail this thread anymore.

    What am I doing? Waiting for United vs Spurs!
     
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  20. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Gav it's gonna fit right in. :biggrin:
     
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