I agree with Don. John Moss is a terrible ref for us and always has been. I think he got the decision correct but also feel from where I was sat he made assumptions based on what he thought happened as he couldn’t have seen some of the incidents. I thought Long was fouled on the edge of the area in the first half that he failed to see despite being very close and a couple of others too. I don’t think the face palming was necessary Tom as you could have debated instead of being churlish. Another thing I thought was Ely didn’t think that good, but just opinions I guess. He did this weird step over thing in slow motion near the end of the first half. He looked more like Ronaldo on Spice.
Probably down to incompetence then. We seem to get more than our fair share of poor decisions turning in to game changers where we are screwed. It annoys me when commentators make the remark about a big team player "He felt contact and rightly went down" how is that any different than Hojbjergs effort? It's just a con.
We don't help ourselves either. Moss may have given a free kick if Pierre had gone down straight away. Pierre delaying his fall obviously persuaded Moss that he was looking to con a penalty out of him.
Then he wasn’t doing his job correctly. Anyhow - as you never respond to me I think I may be correct in assuming I must be on ignore. I may as well stop trying to debate with you and return the compliment.
That doesn't make sense, if Hojbjerg was being honest he would have been trying to run on and score, in an instant he may have realised that he wasn't going to make it, so he went down, who knows it all happened so quickly. Had Moss done his job properly he would have given a free kick for McGuires foul on Austin shortly before, again Austin was slow to go down and made it look like a dive, but actually Austin was sent off balance by the foul tackle.
Sorry Tom cant agree with you there. Maybe not necessarily a team but they do with certain players.............
Rooney was forever in refs faced swearing his head off, many many times got away with it.....other players straight yellow.
Yes they ****ing do and they have teams they like to favour otherwise you will have to accept that most are completely incompetent for the decisions they make. So take your pick - biased or incompetent.
Yes, and Steve McClaren once got Middlesboro to a Europe final. There's a 'then' and there's a 'now'. Happy to disagree on whether Hughes is the man to take a club (be it Saints or any other club) with progressive aspirations anywhere in this day and age.
I'm not sure that's the main reason they took him on long-term. I'd say it was more likely a lack of options, and possibly honouring an agreement. Pure conjecture, but that's what I'd guess. I don't dislike him, or think he's without any merit for some clubs, but do think he's distinctly average.
You don’t actually know that Tom. They are not supposed to, but unless you have some super mindreading power, you don’t know. While unlikely, it is possible.
Refs are human (contrary to common belief ) and will develop prejudices based on experience....as we all do. In fact, prejudice based on experience is a survival technique. If someone cheats you once, do you really give them the same chance next time as you'd give someone who had previously treated you well. A good ref will try and fight it and judge everything on merit....but they aren't computers. I doubt they favour one team or one player deliberately....because that would make them a cheat...but I fully accept they may have a subliminal problem with some teams and players. I think refs are not superhuman...able to overcome their natural instincts....but I am sure most of them are doing their best in an honest way.
I would love us to have lots of points, but too early to judge the manager. I don't intend to include what happened at the end of last season and the beginning of this season as one lump....fans fall roughly into 2 camps: he's great because we stayed up last season or rubbish because they include his 2017/18 results in with this seasons i.e. has had few wins. Better to have a clean start...1 point from 3 games is poor, but there is some promise (if you compare with early 2017/18 rather than the Cortese era). We need some patience.....though where that ends I have no idea.
