Off Topic Political Debate

You should leave the difficult stuff to the experts and just worry about Capricorn attacting your rafters.

 

I thought you might have had an answer, but assume you haven't been briefed yet by one of your favourite papers.

 

After coffee I'm off to cut the mother - in - law's grass, I will save the United Kingdom later.

 

You keep trying to press buttons. You keep missing.

 

But, again, currently he is innocent.

 

Does it not alarm you that the nation's debt is more than seventeen times higher than you thought it was?

Do you notice you are out of touch?

Do you care about the reality of the figure as opposed to your very wrong assumption? You'll just argue, flag-wave and vote Tory whatever the true situation our country finds itself, eh?

 

One of your sillier posts. The LP induced national debt would be even higher without the sensibly caps on spending introduced by the Tories. You can see why the nation keeps electing the Conservatives, no other choice really. Without the austerity we would have a runaway debt mountain like those in France, Italy and Greece.

 

I can see why people keep re-electing them, yes. They are supremely ill-informed. And if people who vote for them truly believe the National Debt is less than 5% of GDP , then what hope has a sensible party? People will vote Tory irrespective of the reality. Proven.

And worrying. I still can’t believe you thought that.
4.9%! We could’ve paid that off in a year!

 

You don't seem to be very good at sums. In 2017 Scotland spent nearly 13.5 billion more than it raised in taxes, 8.3% of Scotland's GDP. This percentage was triple the UK's figure of 2.4% of GDP. Sturgeon has accepted a more sustainable level for Scotland would be under 3% implying further spending cuts or growth in tax revenue is needed.

Like kids in a sweetshop.

 

Just a reminder of what you wrote:

It costs about £48billion p.a. to service the debt. You wrote that our debt was 4.9% of GDP (not the reality of about 87% of GDP) making our a debt about £100billion! That is hilarious.

In your sweetshop, do you give 17 penny sweets for a penny? I’m coming...

 

I think it is now quite clear that SH does not know what to do in the event of a no deal. Rather typical of those who were swept up with false promises of how easy it would all be. Why he keeps wanting something he does not understand takes some believing, but there you go. Still it looks as if that will not happen as sufficient Tory MPs are prepared to put the good of the nation ahead of party politics. If that happens what next? A breakaway group led by little Moggy and his henchmen, or would they back down and shut up? Momentum are trying to get the subject of Brexit brought to the fore in the Labour party. If you look at how many of the leading figures are steering towards a much clearer policy then there is hope for the country. Every poll you look at shows that the people are not happy now that they start to understand better what the effects will be on their lives. Deadlock in Westminster at present, so something will have to give.

 

If you knew anything about finance it would be obvious I was referring to annual figures. Scotland's annual deficit is always 2 to 3 times worse than the rest of the UK.

 

The clear policy is the one set out by the PM in her Mansion House speech. This will ensure the controlling Tory Party remain united. What is also clear the Chequers proposal has no chance of getting through parliament. I'm not sure which wishy washy compromise you are hoping for?

The government are planning for a 'no deal' you will just have to wait to find out.

 

You might be surprised what I “know about finance”.
Typical Tory. You were colossally wrong and you can’t admit it.
I quoted you directly. It’s patent you know not an iota about finance. 4.9%of GDP!

 

The Chequers proposals are currently being discussed in Brussels, not previous speeches. Seeing as the party cannot agree on anything it is beyond belief that you consider them to be united. Compromise is what negotiation is about, and you have no chance of having your cake after you have eaten it, unless you still believe in the pup that Boris sold you. So which part of the Tory party do you actually support? The government, or the Moggy faction.

 

Just like the ERG group and most Conservatives I expect the government to stick with it's well publicised views as expressed in the Mansion House speech. This position represented the aims of the majority that voted in the referendum to leave the EU. We would rather the UK leaves with no deal, and no ransom payment, than compromise on our red lines.

This is a clear and simple position that all should be able to understand.

 

Your lack of knowledge on fiscal finance, especially on borrowed money, is quite an asset when supporting left wing 'borrow and spend' policies, in fact it is a prerequisite.
You must be horrified by McDonnell's uncosted, thrice spent. proposed 500 billion extra borrowing bribe?

 

Way past Mansion House days SH. Why do you think that Mogg is so bent on tearing the government apart. Today we see that he has been proposing that people should be checked at the Irish border as they were before the GFA. That shows how desperate he is becoming as the day draws nearer when his offshore accounts in the Caymen Islands will be uncovered. As a MP he should know that it would be illegal to go back to any border arrangement that was not in force prior to the referendum. To put peoples lives at risk to protect your own wealth is pure evil.

 

that rarerist of creatures an unashamed Tory , oblivious to anything except his own drivel , a united tory party ? , that's as funny as Roy H s defence of Zaha ! Superhorns you are a bot , no real human can concoct the nonsense you spew out

 

We are not rare at all, in fact millions keep voting Conservative which is why we are now the natural party of government. What is rare in the UK is anybody taking any notice of those so called 'real socialists' like Michael Foot. We all know what the country thought of that windbag.