Nothing apart from suggesting a boycott might work. I tell you what I am not doing, lining the Allams pockets like 10k Stockholm syndrome sufferers.
Well when it happens its not good I can tell thee. And it must really pee you off sat next to seemingly passionless supporters sat their spectating not getting behind their team. That pee'd me off as much. Especially away at fully subscribed games when you are forced to sit amongst passionless mutes. To be fair I don't miss it as much as I thought I would and Ive heard a few others reiterate that.
Nobody around me is passionless. They’re all 100% behind the lads. I can’t speak for the whole ground like. We’ve never had a Besiktas or Bundesliga style atmosphere, don’t pretend we did. There’s still plenty of people passionate about the club that still go. And I’ll say it one more time, a boycott isn’t going to change anything. Just because you’ve convinced yourself it’s a brilliant idea doesn’t mean it’s overly effective.
I think chillo needs a hug now. Obviously Im only saying this for oxygen but how much of chillos many posts does it appear he's just fed up with a changing football world, that none of us really like, and he's fallen out of love with the game and walked away?
Not particularly , no , but that money is a tiny fraction of what they get from Sky Football has changed massively and fans who go to games just aren't as important unless you get pretty low down the football pyramid Your problem just isn't with the Allams , it's with modern football as well and I can understand that
A full on boycott 'would' effect change for the good imo. I do believe the Allams would be shamed into selling. The loss of income would be another persuader for them. But then again I know a full boycott just isn't going to happen. Not whilst we have all these ****ing scabs still going...
I wouldn’t say I’m happy paying for a membership no. I wrestled with it and did boycott for a fair while before eventually renewing I must say I do think you’re being overly self righteous about those who do choose to go though. You’ve stopped doing something that you didn’t enjoy and weren’t excited about. That’s not exactly difficult is it, it’s like me deciding to boycott Formula 1 ! You’ll never know whether you would have boycotted if you did find it exciting I think others who really find boycotting hard have more right to an opinion on those still going to home games, but I don’t hear any of them referring to people like me as being ‘like a scab’
Precisely I don’t think he’s boycotting at all. He’s just stopped going to football cos he doesn’t like it
lol sterling, I don't think its a brilliant idea, I think murder is a brilliant idea, it just hasnt been tried and I think it might work. Even for one game.(not murder) I'm not pretending anything, I know we've never had fantastic atmosphere (unless we were winning 3 or 4 -0 or come back from 2-0 down Derby home Fer Ark (the Watford home semi final was close though)) Around me, just above Taff we used to join in with the songs started in NE corner plus start our own. Once NE corner vanished it became a morgue in the east stand. It was a case of move to north and my eyesight isn't good enough to enjoy the game in virtual 2d so again it was easier for me to stop. I used to travel with and stand with at away games fans who started the singing and when most of them stopped going it became dire. I was friendly with 2 away coach organisers from 3 to 5 years ago who now don't even go. Don't you think a mass walkout on a televised game would have effect? or even an empty ground at the start of the game? We're over halfway there already. At the moment nothing is happening in the way of protest. The odd chant and that's it.
I hate the way people think scab is a nasty word or slur. Its only what was termed in the miners strike as someone who didn't join in If there was another simple word I would have used that. A close member of my family suffers with a skin condition and we call her scabby all the time as a way of de-sensitizing the word. Some people are quoting the word scab as if its a horrible term when in fact some of the "scabs" in the strike were very brave people at the end of their wits. Listen, Ive seen the film Billy Elliot, it got quite emotional and I went through loads of hankies....
All cleared up then, you’re definitely not boycotting. Piss poor & pathetic. There’s a reason your eyesight is ****ed.
But what effect is it you are going for? An empty stadium isn't going to shame the Allams into leaving, do I need to word this differently? THEY DON'T CARE. There could be one man in there (probably me) and they wouldn't give a ****. It doesn't shame them, Ehab will just do an interview stating it was a gimmick and play it down. They aren't fannies who will cry if nobody goes in. They get a crap load of cash from TV. When that dries up, then they'll leave. They will leave on their terms, there isn't really anything we can do other than tell them we hate them. But that won't dictate whether they leave or not. The media have no influence over them because they are in their own little bubble. The MSM might go "oooh, there wasn't anybody there, their fans are hacked off." But what do you want the papers to do? The Allams only really speak to the YP anyway and even then, they'll just give a half arsed excuse. It sounds like the boycott has given you a good excuse not to, almost as if you were looking for one anyway. In which case, just don't come back if you don't like it and you aren't going to enjoy it. On the scab thing, the term was meant as an insult to deride those who refused to strike by those who did strike. So you used a well known insult but didn't mean it to be offensive to anybody? What were you expecting to happen? Nobody ever uses that term to refer to somebody in a positive light. Scabs aren't nice things, hence the insult. Even if you said 'like', it's still an insult and I think you knew what you meant to do.
I was referring to the pig headed type of fan that says "no one is stopping me from going" in my mind they would still go if we were called Allam Tigers. And in my eyes yes I would liken them to scabs. You see how divided the Allams have made us fans?