It’s good you don’t think fans attending games are scabs. Unfortunately you say that immediately after a paragraph that suggests fans attending games don’t have principles. I 100% agree with you that people belittling fans staying away and boycotting is also wrong. In fairness, that’s just Chazz trying to start an argument and validate his existence.
You don't like what I say disagree with it. Don't just attack me. Pretty pathetic really. Who is belittling them? I know ben and I know why he isn't going and also some of the other stuff he does. A lot have used this as an excuse to give up. If they're so passionate come and protest. Cheers.
I got the impression that you were belittling fans who don't go too so maybe you need to rethink what you post on here. Its a shame that the owners have split the fans like this to be honest and that's why I don't wish to argue with people like yourself anymore.
MARTIN SAMUEL: Football League lets owners get away with being useless Manager of the month awards are rarely handed out to those sitting mid-table in League One, but if there is any justice, Terry McPhillips will be recognised this August. McPhillips is a 49-year-old former Halifax striker, who spent time as a youth coach at Crewe and Blackburn before following Gary Bowyer to Blackpool as assistant manager. When Bowyer quit after the first game of the season, McPhillips was the battlefield promotion. Since when he has knocked Barnsley out of the EFL Cup, earning a winnable tie at Doncaster, drawn at last season’s play-off finalists Shrewsbury, and beaten Coventry. Blackpool, despite the best efforts of their owners, lie 11th in the table. please log in to view this image Terry McPhillips has done an outstanding job since taking over as manager of Blackpool In chaotic circumstances — eight of the players who started the first game at Wycombe were making debuts — McPhillips has stopped the club toppling off a cliff. Again. Just as Bowyer did. The fans were devastated when he left but the frustration of a Blackpool manager must be immense. The Oystons have asset-stripped the club and the best part of £31.27million is still owed to former director Valeri Belokon. Incredibly, it is Belokon — whose investment was key in Blackpool’s promotion to the Premier League in 2010 — and not the Oystons, who the Football League regard as unfit to run a football club. Maybe it is the League themselves who are unfit, considering the messes over which they gladly preside. Blackpool has been ruined and is tearing itself apart. A friend, now based in London, will be travelling north on Saturday to see Blackpool play at home to Accrington Stanley. He goes a few times each year because, despite everything, he still loves his club but half of his mates won’t be there because they are part of an on-going boycott. Meaning, just by paying his money at the turnstile, he is made to feel like a traitor. please log in to view this image £31.27million is still owed to Valeri Belokon by the Oystons, owners of Blackpool FC Last season, even the death of Jimmy Armfield failed to unify the support. The Oyston family have left Blackpool fractured beyond repair. Just 3,656 turned up for the match with Coventry on Tuesday, compared with 11,414 for a Championship game between the clubs in 2012, or 8,869 for the same fixture in the same division in 2016. And yet they sail on, these useless owners. The League doesn’t challenge them, doesn’t mediate, and makes ownership a random factor because once an individual is through the fit and proper person’s test, it no longer matters how the place is run. If the Oystons are fit and proper custodians of Blackpool, what of Roland Duchatelet at Charlton? He is cutting to the bone in a bid to restore financial health, meaning paper towels are no longer provided in toilets at the Valley, and there are even restrictions on nutritional items. Bottled water is now supplied only to the first team at the Sparrow Lane training complex. Charlton are currently working without a permanent manager or chief executive officer and staff are threatening action over unpaid bonuses. Yet from the League, nothing. They probably admire Duchatalet’s parsimony even if it leaves the youth players thirsty and the supporters inconvenienced. please log in to view this image Charlton owner Roland Duchatelet is cutting to the bone in a bid to restore financial health Only if Charlton’s owner tried to spend money in a cavalier attempt to return the club to the Premier League, would the League get involved. As happened at Queens Park Rangers, they would use their sledgehammer FFP rules and penalties to turn drama into crisis, and mistakes into full-blown catastrophe. Staff at Charlton live in hope of a takeover by a mysterious Australian consortium, believed to have reached the due diligence stage. One member has been identified as Andrew Muir, who sold his retail business The Good Guys for close to £500million in 2016, and is on the board of Australian rules club Essendon. The Australian Football Consortium says on its website that its goal is ‘…to rebuild the club that we acquire and over time, attempt to elevate it to the Premier League’. Ooh, that sounds suspiciously like ambition. Could cost money with no guarantee of success. The League won’t like it. A new owner might even start splashing out on luxury items like hand driers or Gatorade. If one does it, others might follow — and then where would all these fit and proper clubs be?
Just copied all that and was going to post it. A couple of minutes wasted. A good point by Samuels about punishing ambition whilst protecting unfit owners.
My Mrs has just got a job working Saturday afternoons when her maternity ends, so I Will soon be joining the exodus . My Saturdays will soon be filled with Burnsy , Jeff Stelling and Paw Patrol
Sort of , tho I'm a terrible boycotter because I will still be paying . I was going to try attend games now and then , but it's cheaper just to pay 21 quid a month then pay on the gate . So I'll be paying and not turning up . Take that Ehab
If she didn't work weekends, she would have to work all 5 weeknights. That's 5 nights in a row cooking my own tea, no thank you .
Yes, it's a problem now. When my kids were born I was lucky enough to have a well paid job which meant my wife didn't go back to work until they were turned 10. Unfortunately this was in the 80s and our slide into division 4 for the first time so I was able to see it in all its glory. Not all bad, a few drinks, well, a lot of drinks, with like minded folk, standing together and supporting our team, no matter how crap they were, and more drinks afterwards, who hardly ever met apart from football, was a lot better "match day experience" than nowadays. Felt more connection with the club than nowadays.
That'll teach him. Good on yer. Perhaps mother and mother in law will become useful in alleviating this problem in time. Just don'tvreturn too worse for wear.
Good article and I aren't taking the piss out of the content, but Lee Evans has let himself go a bit hasn't he?
I choose to go to games and protest vocally, but I agree with everything you say in this post and would never criticise you for boycotting
sorry didnt know that you could have just deleted mr miners strike name cos I was just quoting a third parties experiences of the 6 years silent treatment he got from his dad cos he was against him.
has anyone really tried shaming them? i dont think so. the odd advert hoarding? and even with 25k in the stadium you only got a couple of thousand prepared to chant Allam out. look at the team 2 years ago and look at it now. I cant get into this players only here for 5 minutes and I don't think they deserve the heroic worshipping we gave Ashbee - Gareth Roberts -Waggy etc. I cant get as passionate about the players as in days gone by - prob since 2007 when we first saw wholesale changes (excepting AP's gift to Brian Little). So for me and many others its not too much of a sacrifice to boycott as I no longer celebrated goals hugging strangers and bouncing all over the terraces. What might work is a designated game to boycott, but again for some reason the present fans of Hull City wont join in. This puzzles me, **** team (till we beat Rotherham) **** owners and still fans carry on putting money in the Allams pockets. When the last parachute payment is trousered they will prob be gone. Of course fans can do what they want, just like many now go to spectate and not support. I hate those kind of fans. And I wont say hate but I am not too happy with fans who are presently going to the kcom. So shoot me? What do you want me to say? I love every City fan? (ones that are boycotting I do) I don't want to argue with anyone, you think I'm wrong delusional confused idiotic, that's fine with me. I wont start slagging off anyone. All I meant was fans going now are like scabs in the miners strike. like not ARE scabs subtle difference but seeing as though this is the board of splitting hairs What would you call fans who are refusing to boycott? I apologise to any fan who has taken offence by the scab reference but I do think you aren't helping the situation in still going. So what If I'm wrong, its no big deal, this is only a post on a message board. In real life I don't even mention a boycott to anyone. So why do it here? Dunno? boredom? Trolling? Not really cos I do nbelieve my thoughts but not in real life a fraction of what its coming across on here. Be cool.
apologies again lamby but did you see the context of that post? I wish I could repost it without his name as it wasn't political, I wasn't vpoicing my opinion on what was right or wrong, I just copy and pasted someone whos father didn't speak to him for the last 6 years of his life. and people putting up signs "so an so" lives next door ie his windows not mine. I suppose the Allam situation is borderline political and you would probably do us all a favour in banning any post mentioning them. Someone asked if I had experienced strike action and I then said I know that going months without pay is nothing compared to not going to watch the team you love. And that my son had gone out to buy fire extinguishers.
Is it right to call you not going a ‘boycott’ if it’s ‘no real sacrifice’ and you didn’t even celebrate goals anyway? Doesn’t sound much of a hardship (unlike City Man’s boycott). It sounds like you were about ready to stop going anyway. Genuine question as I can’t remember...do you go to away games instead?
But 'back in the day' as you call it we weren't really striving for anything, so the there wasn't a turnover of players because we didn't need to have one. Players move on. In recent history we've had more leave the club for bigger and better things than we have ones we've got rid of because we don't want them anymore. Players like Ashbee are dying out, due to the money side of the game. Had he been 25 now and with us for 6 years, he'd probably move on if he was offered a better contract elsewhere (in fact, that's why he did leave IIRC). I wouldn't call fans who are refusing to boycott anything, they pay their money, they're entitled to do as they please. I'm prepared to put the bullshit from the Allams to the side for the sake of the players. Why should the Allams dictate who goes? Some people have personal reasons for not going, so an empty seat doesn't mean that person is boycotting. If you want to boycott, go ahead, that's your personal reason and way of protesting. What other people do isn't really your business, so don't concern yourself with it. I go because if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing the lads any favours and I don't think that's fair. They shouldn't be punished because of their bosses. If Bill Gates did something twatish, and you were a fan of his products, would you walk into the nearest PC world and have a go at the clerk or the manager? Why should the lads take the blame? They have a job to do and they're doing it. The fans support the team, what goes on upstairs is separate and while it does rankle that there's been some particularly **** decisions made in the name of Hull City AFC, I see no reason why that should stop somebody from supporting the players in black and amber.
